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mcar

(45,581 posts)
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 01:26 PM Sep 18

Wait, How Exactly Did ICE Manage to "Lose" More Than 1,000 Alligator Alcatraz Detainees?

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a67951055/alligator-alcatraz-missing-detainees/

It appears that the agency is just as incompetent as it is cruel.

By Charles P. PiercePublished: Sep 18, 2025 1:46 PM EDT

Well, mercy me. The well-oiled machinery of the Stephen Miller Roundup seems to have slipped another gear. From the Miami Herald:

As of the end of August, the whereabouts of two-thirds of more than 1,800 men detained at Alligator Alcatraz during the month of July could not be determined by the Miami Herald. The Herald had obtained the names from two detainee rosters. Around 800 detainees showed no record on ICE’s online database. More than 450 listed no location and only instructed the user to “Call ICE for details”—a vague notation that attorneys said could mean that a detainee is still being processed, in the middle of a transfer between two sites or about to be deported.


They had these people isolated in a prison camp in the middle of the damn Everglades and, somehow, they managed to lose them in transit to God knows where? These people simply don't care enough to run a policy that isn't cruel and stupid. Being cruel and competent is beyond them. Being benign and stupid is beyond them. Their only talent is being cruel and stupid.

Some Alligator Alcatraz detainees who couldn’t be located in the ICE database might have been deported—even though the internal data obtained by the Herald show the vast majority of detainees didn’t have final orders of removal from a judge before entering the facility. Some of those deportations occurred as a result of detainees deciding to abandon their ongoing immigration cases to put an end to their detention at the facility and its harsh conditions, which included being held in chain-link cages in tents with little protection from the elements. “It became a game of chicken to see who’s going to blink first, to see if the client’s going to say ‘I don’t want to be detained in these conditions just send me back,’” said Miami immigration attorney Alex Solomiany.
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Wait, How Exactly Did ICE Manage to "Lose" More Than 1,000 Alligator Alcatraz Detainees? (Original Post) mcar Sep 18 OP
Are they even alive? sheshe2 Sep 18 #1
That's my question. MontanaMama Sep 18 #2
Yeah mcar Sep 18 #3
Look for a mass burial ground. sheshe2 Sep 18 #5
I don't think they "lost" the detainees. WestMichRad Sep 18 #4
My guess is they snuck them on a midnight plane going anywhere... intheflow Sep 18 #9
As far as I am concerned, .... LudwigPastorius Sep 18 #6
They took lessons from Putin? muriel_volestrangler Sep 18 #7
ICE should strip search the alligators and demand a cheek swab DNA test. Ping Tung Sep 18 #8

sheshe2

(95,392 posts)
5. Look for a mass burial ground.
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 01:53 PM
Sep 18

Either that or they fed them to the alligators as a quick and easy disposal when they were dead or dying. We heard about the horrific conditions of the place and I doubt that many of them lasted all that long.

This country has become unrecognizable in a few short months. Dayum this entire administration to hell.

WestMichRad

(2,868 posts)
4. I don't think they "lost" the detainees.
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 01:37 PM
Sep 18

They’ve been shipping them back and forth between multiple detention facilities, intentionally, so that defense attorneys etc can’t reach them. And purposely not keeping records of who is getting sent where. Then when the 30 days or whatever legal time limit for legal processing has expired, the detainee can be sent out of the country… to El Salvador, or Somalia, or Eswatini, or wherever.

Sleazy as hell, and purposely done to evade legal recourse.

intheflow

(29,940 posts)
9. My guess is they snuck them on a midnight plane going anywhere...
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 05:03 PM
Sep 18

they don't speak Spanish and have pledged to imprison immigrants sent there or ignore them because the country is in an ative civil war.

LudwigPastorius

(13,998 posts)
6. As far as I am concerned, ....
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 01:59 PM
Sep 18

I consider those people to have been "disappeared" until the regime can produce them.

Has this country gone from inauguration to a death camp in only 7 months?

Probably.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,437 posts)
7. They took lessons from Putin?
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 02:04 PM
Sep 18

He's very experienced in making people, especially children, that's he's locked up "disappear". I'm sure Trump or Gabbard could have made the introduction,

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