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Tanuki

(16,149 posts)
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:08 PM Sep 28

LDS shooter: Iraq vet Thomas Sanford

(Apologies for NYPost source)
https://nypost.com/2025/09/28/us-news/iraq-war-veteran-thomas-sanford-idd-as-gunman-who-attacked-grand-blanc-lds-church-killing-2-and-setting-it-ablaze/


"The deranged madman who killed at least two people and injured nine others at a Michigan Latter-day Saints church, torching the building and opening fire on fleeing congregants and their families, has been identified as 40-year-old Thomas Jacob Sanford, The Post can confirm.

Sanford, a US Marine veteran, according to his mom’s Facebook page, rammed his Chevy Silverado truck into the building before unleashing the assault on the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Grand Blanc Township, Michigan, armed with a semi-automatic rifle."... (more)

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LDS shooter: Iraq vet Thomas Sanford (Original Post) Tanuki Sep 28 OP
Bet he was a raging leftist radical. nt intrepidity Sep 28 #1
looks trans Takket Sep 28 #2
There have been several claims he had a trump/Vance sign posted outside his house Coldwater Sep 28 #11
Pics Blue Full Moon Sep 28 #36
We won't know for sure.... SergeStorms Sep 28 #34
The rush to blame it on politics and one side. Yet the guy is probably like most of these shooters-- someone who needed Silent Type Sep 28 #3
You fail to understand that this is defensive on our part because the entire machinery of the current US government Crunchy Frog Sep 28 #19
It's been going on for years before trump. Besides, we don't have to be like GOPers. Silent Type Sep 28 #23
About time we fought fire with fire. Liberal In Texas Sep 28 #28
Because "keeping our powder dry"..... SergeStorms Sep 28 #35
The reason this is important Diraven Sep 28 #40
What a strange photo. I assume he's holding a child and the bird? hlthe2b Sep 28 #4
He's holding the kid who is holding the bird Kaleva Sep 28 #6
Noem enid602 Sep 28 #33
Too many hands. Ping Tung Sep 28 #7
Something does seem odd about the kid's hands/arms. Abolishinist Sep 28 #10
Because he is turned toward the left Kaleva Sep 28 #12
He is holding the child belly to belly sarisataka Sep 28 #14
Thanks, looking at it again I see his head is turned, now it makes sense. Abolishinist Sep 28 #18
I only see 4 Kaleva Sep 28 #13
Hmmmm Traildogbob Sep 28 #5
NC shooter was a white vet as well. Mental health issues, availability of weapons, anger... 617Blue Sep 28 #8
This psycho is a one-man army Coldwater Sep 28 #9
Sounds Rebl2 Sep 28 #15
Or it's in retaliation for the killing of Kirk Kaleva Sep 28 #16
This is pretty much how I pictured he'd look Siwsan Sep 28 #17
I refuse to accept anything from the NYComPost at face value... regnaD kciN Sep 28 #20
It's kind of difficult to do when n you have an image like this JI7 Sep 28 #22
So I'm guessing we won't be hearing much about this anymore JI7 Sep 28 #21
CORRECT Skittles Sep 28 #29
Killers often begin with animals IbogaProject Sep 28 #24
ugh, anyone who finds killing entertaining Skittles Sep 28 #30
Aw, poor bird. calimary Sep 28 #25
When it's a straight white dude it's a 'deranged madman' SeattleVet Sep 28 #26
All those mean lefties trans rhetorics are making the gun toting magats react by shooting up Liberal In Texas Sep 28 #31
Trump's "crackdown on crime" can't do shit about Klarkashton Sep 28 #27
Right? intheflow Sep 28 #39
Get used to it folks, it's only going to get worse. With criminals running the government, the courts, the JD, people ImNotGod Sep 28 #32
I do think it's connected to the NC shooting. Blue Full Moon Sep 28 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author DownriverDem Sep 28 #38
Another case of--MAGACIDE! Brought to you by Trump, Inc. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Sep 28 #41
I wonder how many learn to kill Tree Lady Sep 28 #42
Aren't ya proud, sonny! choie Sep 28 #43

Coldwater

(476 posts)
11. There have been several claims he had a trump/Vance sign posted outside his house
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:42 PM
Sep 28

but after a few false claims already this morning/afternoon I'm a bit suspicious until I actually see the sign.

SergeStorms

(19,823 posts)
34. We won't know for sure....
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 06:33 PM
Sep 28

until the paint dries on the shell casings Kash Patel is supplying to the media.

Silent Type

(11,716 posts)
3. The rush to blame it on politics and one side. Yet the guy is probably like most of these shooters-- someone who needed
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:18 PM
Sep 28

mental health diagnosis and treatment, though not in his 20s like most shooters since Oswald.

Crunchy Frog

(28,143 posts)
19. You fail to understand that this is defensive on our part because the entire machinery of the current US government
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:59 PM
Sep 28

is trying to paint this and other similar events as some vast left wing terrorist conspiracy. And they have stated their intent to go after any individual or group that they can paint as "supporting left wing violence". And they mean us. So yes, we're going to point it out when these perpetrators of violence don't fit the profile or the narrative that they're pushing.

Diraven

(1,717 posts)
40. The reason this is important
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 08:20 PM
Sep 28

Is that Trump and his goons are just waiting for one more attack they can pin on an "indoctrinated left wing radical" to start their violent fantasy crackdown on liberals, Democrats, trans people, and anyone who supports or funds them as "terrorists". It's a literal powder keg, and unfortunately we have to keep diffusing it. And unfortunately they'll probably get their way eventually because it doesn't matter how many right wing radical murders happen they will conveniently ignore because they don't fit their agenda, before that one that they can blame on us.

hlthe2b

(111,962 posts)
4. What a strange photo. I assume he's holding a child and the bird?
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:20 PM
Sep 28

Perhaps without the blurring of the face (?) it would be less bizarre.

Abolishinist

(2,813 posts)
10. Something does seem odd about the kid's hands/arms.
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:38 PM
Sep 28

His arms seem too long. And why is he in such a twisted position, holding the bird with his left hand vs. the right.

sarisataka

(22,088 posts)
14. He is holding the child belly to belly
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:48 PM
Sep 28

The child is rotating their body to face the camera. At first glance it isn't obvious due to the camo. Once the positioning is deciphered, there is nothing wrong with the proportions

Abolishinist

(2,813 posts)
18. Thanks, looking at it again I see his head is turned, now it makes sense.
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:58 PM
Sep 28

Last edited Sun Sep 28, 2025, 07:41 PM - Edit history (1)

Traildogbob

(12,098 posts)
5. Hmmmm
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:21 PM
Sep 28

Duck Dynasty Fox freak? If it looks, walks and smells like a Duck….eliminate all religion that is not the Megan Kelly White one.
Petal Will recover a bullet with a detailed radical lib confession on the casing, like those skilled Asians write a book on a grain of rice.

617Blue

(2,097 posts)
8. NC shooter was a white vet as well. Mental health issues, availability of weapons, anger...
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:29 PM
Sep 28

Siwsan

(27,763 posts)
17. This is pretty much how I pictured he'd look
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:54 PM
Sep 28

Classic Burton resident. Lots of good people in Burton. Too many MAGAt, though.

regnaD kciN

(27,343 posts)
20. I refuse to accept anything from the NYComPost at face value...
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 05:13 PM
Sep 28

…but note that, normally, their “unconfirmed information” tends to echo the MAGA line, so the fact that they’re not identifying the assailant as a “trans ANTIFA Marxist” may be telling.

JI7

(92,873 posts)
22. It's kind of difficult to do when n you have an image like this
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 05:24 PM
Sep 28

What will happen is they will just stop talking about it and pretend it never happened just as they do with Colorado and the Pennsylvania shooting that killed multiple law enforcement recently.

Skittles

(168,355 posts)
29. CORRECT
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 06:16 PM
Sep 28

only if the shooter is trans or an immigrant (or if the victim is a racist celebrity)

Skittles

(168,355 posts)
30. ugh, anyone who finds killing entertaining
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 06:17 PM
Sep 28

gotta love the ones who photograph their victory over......a duck

SeattleVet

(5,768 posts)
26. When it's a straight white dude it's a 'deranged madman'
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 06:08 PM
Sep 28

If it's anyone else they somehow transform into a trans dem leftist.

Liberal In Texas

(15,767 posts)
31. All those mean lefties trans rhetorics are making the gun toting magats react by shooting up
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 06:19 PM
Sep 28

a church or a mall or a rightwing podcaster or ...

See it's actually the radical left. (Radical Left = Anybody against Trump)


Klarkashton

(4,497 posts)
27. Trump's "crackdown on crime" can't do shit about
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 06:10 PM
Sep 28

These mass murders.

I'll bet trump says nothing much about this one.

intheflow

(29,840 posts)
39. Right?
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 07:23 PM
Sep 28

The real violence isn’t happening in blue cities, it’s happening in rural heartland kind of places. And it sure as hell isn’t being done by immigrants, asylum seekers, POC, women, or antifa.

ImNotGod

(1,194 posts)
32. Get used to it folks, it's only going to get worse. With criminals running the government, the courts, the JD, people
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 06:20 PM
Sep 28

are being groomed to be lawless, take what they want, do what they want. We are watching the breakdown of our society and no one can stop it.

Blue Full Moon

(2,970 posts)
37. I do think it's connected to the NC shooting.
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 06:53 PM
Sep 28

Both 40 yr old Iraq war vets.
Reminds me of the Las Vegas and New Orleans attacks.

Response to Tanuki (Original post)

choie

(6,263 posts)
43. Aren't ya proud, sonny!
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 09:53 PM
Sep 28

I killed a bird that had no way to defend himself. Look at that blood! Aren't guns great?

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