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TrollBuster9090

(6,103 posts)
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 11:35 PM Oct 4

I Vote We Start Calling 'Antifa' Anti-Fascist. That's What Antifa Stands For. (No, I Have No Affection For Them.)

But MAGA is an American Fascist movement, and I think it's fitting that their sworn enemy is called the ANTI-FASCIST ACTION movement. If the Anti-Fascists are against MAGA, and if MAGA is against Anti-Fascists, MAGA must be FASCISTS.
QED


When I studied the history of the 1930s, there were three factions vying for control of the hearts and minds of the world. Fascism, Communism, and liberal democracy. It was clear that Fascism and Communism were MORTAL enemies, and the only thing they had in common was a mutual hatred of moderate liberals. Mainly because they weren't fanatically nationalist enough.

But in the end, moderate liberal democracy prevailed. FDR brought in policies that blunted the sharpest edges of capitalism with regulations, and limited re-distribution of wealth; and spared us from the ravages of Fascism and/or Communism.

The same struggle is going on today, and we have to remind people of it.

MAGA is a Fascist movement, and Antifa is an ANTI-FASCIST movement with overtones of communism. We want nothing to do with EITHER. But it helps to remind people that Antifa hates MAGA because MAGA is a Fascist movement.

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I Vote We Start Calling 'Antifa' Anti-Fascist. That's What Antifa Stands For. (No, I Have No Affection For Them.) (Original Post) TrollBuster9090 Oct 4 OP
who are the communist leaders in this antifa? ret5hd Oct 4 #1
There is no American group that I know of calling itself "Antifa"... AntiFascist Oct 4 #2
Ten years of that fucking fascist jackal. I'm proudly anti-fascist, and he can kiss my Antifa (Anti-Fascist) ass. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Oct 5 #3
Who's "we" Blues Heron Oct 5 #4
You think antifa is intheflow Oct 5 #5
Good Lord! Prairie Gates Oct 5 #6
another proud anti-fascist here. uncle ray Oct 5 #7
Funny this..YOUR avatar was repeatedly accused... ret5hd Oct 5 #8
Anti-fascist, anti-communist,... Wuddles440 Oct 5 #9
there isn't any "them" to have no affection for mike_c Oct 5 #10
I disagree entirely. We want everything to do with anti-fascism. BlueTsunami2018 Oct 5 #11
I'm antifascist, but I don't belong and never will belong to "Antifa." Iggo Oct 5 #12

AntiFascist

(13,689 posts)
2. There is no American group that I know of calling itself "Antifa"...
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 11:55 PM
Oct 4

I would suggest spelling it out as 'anti-fascist', otherwise you are playing right into MAGA's hands and may ultimately be labelled as a terrorist organization by the Trump Admin, which has very little adherence to Constitutional laws.

The Trump Admin is using 'Antifa' as an umbrella term to refer to all leftist groups that are calling out Fascism in our government. They fear that this is stirring up terrorism against the government, thus they prefer to label all leftist groups as terrorist "organizations". There will always be those on the extreme far left who may pose a terroristic threat, but the simplest way for the Trump admin to reduce this threat is to stop acting like fascists...very simple. Their actions, however, seem to indicate that they are doing the exact opposite, probably because their top priority is to distract the public from issues like what is contained in the Epstein files!

RedWhiteBlueIsRacist

(1,280 posts)
3. Ten years of that fucking fascist jackal. I'm proudly anti-fascist, and he can kiss my Antifa (Anti-Fascist) ass.
Sun Oct 5, 2025, 12:22 AM
Oct 5

intheflow

(29,807 posts)
5. You think antifa is
Sun Oct 5, 2025, 03:49 AM
Oct 5

a) an actual, organized collective of commies?
or
b) a concept you embrace but you don’t want to be associated with?

Wuddles440

(1,886 posts)
9. Anti-fascist, anti-communist,...
Sun Oct 5, 2025, 12:00 PM
Oct 5

and anti-monarchist as were my parents and ancestors - always have been and always will be!

mike_c

(36,795 posts)
10. there isn't any "them" to have no affection for
Sun Oct 5, 2025, 01:05 PM
Oct 5

Why do democrats consistently fall into the trap of validating a core MAGA delusion? Antifa does not exist. Antifacism is no more an organization than veganism or atheism.

BlueTsunami2018

(4,688 posts)
11. I disagree entirely. We want everything to do with anti-fascism.
Sun Oct 5, 2025, 03:07 PM
Oct 5

The only reason we got any of those FDR reforms was to avoid a workers revolution. Roosevelt said it himself. The labor movement was brought to us by socialists and communists. It wasn’t moderates, it wasn’t capitalists, it wasn’t liberals. People saw what the Soviets were getting with unions, equal rights and the like and demanded we get the same. The new deal and the great society were simply to placate the white working class and reluctantly given. These things weren’t implemented by any sense of fairness and progression, they were implemented because the ruling class was afraid of what would happen if they didn’t, the revolution we really needed and still need today.

Socialism is the antidote to fascism, not moderate “regulated” capitalism. Those regulations don’t mean a goddamn thing when they can just be removed by the next capitalist administration that comes along. We’ve seen it for decades, they started chipping away at the new deal instantly after FDR passed with Taft-Hartley and it’s only gotten worse. These motherfuckers want to eliminate the safety net entirely.

There’s a reason the capitalists did everything in their power to end socialist systems including starting civil wars, rigging elections, assassinations, death squads, sanctions, embargoes and blockades. They couldn’t allow people to see how badly they were getting fucked under capitalism and that there was a better way. A way that didn’t include the exploitation of the many to enrich the few, a way that included everyone. Everyone except fascists.

Capitalism is the problem. You’ll never have an equitable society under this system. The reason fascism is able to take the hold it has is because there’s no offsetting Socialist system in any major country to keep it in check. They don’t have to pretend to care about us anymore. There’s no one to point to and say “hey, we want some of that!”

Liberals always sell out the left to the fascists in the end because protecting capital is more important than the People actually having the power. It’s why we’ll never get universal healthcare, education, housing and basic needs met. Everything has to be for profit under this system, there has to be infinite economic “growth”, the resources always have to be controlled by the rulers.

We should be 100% on the side of the anti-facsists because they’re the only ones currently willing to fight, really physically fight those bastards. That’s where this is heading, that’s where we should be right now.


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