Not Much Time Before Obamacare Is Dead

[gab13by13]

Speaker Johnson says there is plenty of time to debate renewing the Obamacare subsidies, he is fucking lying.

Open enrollment for Obamacare in most states begins Nov.1st, in Idaho it begins Oct. 15th, that means that insurers are deciding premiums right now. If insurers believe that the Obamacare subsidies will not be renewed it is estimated that premiums will rise anywhere from 200 to 400%.

According to the Kaiser Family Foundation 77%, 18.7 million people out of 24.3 million people who are on Obamacare live in states that were won by Krasnov in 2024.

I do not like polls, but the majority of polls say that Congressional Magats and Krasnov will be blamed when Obamacare dies.

Hey Idaho Magats on Obamacare, open enrollment is 10 days away, better get your medical procedures done now.

How many people will be able to afford premium increases from 200 to 400%? When those millions of people lose insurance then hospitals and doctors won't be paid and the demise of Obamacare will be the demise of mainly rural hospitals. Maybe Magats on Obamacare can try horse paste or bleach when they get sick, I hear that worm brain believes they are cure alls.

[kerouac2]

1. And they will blame Obamacare itself

And the Dems.

No worries though, they will have a better replacement in 2 weeks...



And when they finally spew something terrible out, they will just name it something ridiculous with words like beautiful and great in it.

[gab13by13]

2. According to the majority of polls

Krasnov and Congressional Magats will be blamed, a majority of unwashed Magats blame Krasnov and Congressional Magats.

No way in hell will Magats come up with a healthcare plan.

[Irish_Dem]

3. The GOP has always been very angry about Americans getting healthcare.

They have fought it tooth and nail for a long time.

The GOP thinks it is privilege only for the well to do.

[ananda]

7. Just like the good old days...

when people had no vaccines, no affordable healthcare,
and social darwinism ruled the world.

I presume all these things will be availabe to the rich,
and also to the people they intend to make use of on
their "plantations."

IOW, healthcare will be a choice: work for us or die.

Of course, back in the days of indentured servitude
and slavery, it really was survival of the fittest, with
evolution at work.

So it might be possible that certain people have an
evolutionary advantage, especially over white people
who didn't have to evolve that way... which would be
kind of ironic, in my humble opinion.

[gab13by13]

8. I believe the super rich want to cull the herd,

Hitler's eugenics, depopulation. Especially now with the rise of AI, the super rich believe they won't need unwashed Americans to do their bidding, AI will solve all their problems.

[Irish_Dem]

10. I agree 100%. It is quite obvious this is the plan.

[NickB79]

4. That 77% from Trump-supporting states statistic is interesting

It means that, if the ACA dies, all those rural red hospitals that offer care to the MAGA base will up and close, because uninsured patients will destroy their finances. So even if you aren't on the ACA, but live in a rural red area, your health care options are about to plummet.

[gab13by13]

9. Yes, you are spot on,

People who are not on Obamacare insurance will also see cut backs in services and increases in costs and increases in premiums.

[rampartd]

5. "trumprx" will specialize in dr oz miracle cures

meanwhile the nursing homes will be wheeling the uninsured into the parking lot.

[Blues Heron]

6. How much Trump can one nation absorb?

[Igel]

11. Aren't the subsidies just reverting to

what they'd have been in 2020? Presumably inflation adjusted in some way, but the media reports have blurred the line between the enhanced COVID-era 'temporary' subsidy and the original base-line pre-COVID subsidies.

I honestly haven't been able to tease out what the baseline would be; it's in the interest of advocates to merge them to an all-or-nothing scenario because a all-or-some scenario is just more complicated and probably too clumsy to serve as a clear message, so while some reports indicate a distinction one or two clauses later that distinction's blurred.

[lostincalifornia]

12. "Just reverting". Do you realize what that would mean?

Income eligibility for the subsidies will be limited to 400% of the Federal Poverty Level. The enhanced subsidies eliminated that income cap, and allowed a lot of middle-income households to receive assistance for the first time. Without an extension, these households would lose all premium tax credits, and the premiums would be too expensive. In other words they would lose their health insurance under the ACA.

The ACA enhanced subsidies capped the premium payments at 8.5% of a household income regardless of income level, and for lower-income households, the required premium contribution would be even lower.

Removing the enhanced subsidies the premiums will increase across ALL income brackets, and many would see their premiums more than double according to the Kaiser Family Foundation.

For example, according the the KFF, subsidized enrollees would see their average annual premium payments rise from 888 dollars in 2025, to 1904 dollars in 2026. A 114% increase. Millions would be uninsured because they could not afford the premiums. The CBO estimated that more than 4 million more Americans would become uninsured. I personally think it would be much higher.

These enhanced subsidies have been in place since 2021, BECAUSE OF THE DEMOCRATS, and have allowed middle-income individuals to join the ACA. If they expire, many will see their premiums double, or lose their subsidies entirely, and that will leave millions uninsured.

This one doesn't take rocket science to see what the effect would be.

and the f**king idiots who depend on it most are from the red states who voted for the sociopath in the White House.

There is no cure for stupidity.

I recall a story a few years back where Micahel Moore paid the medical bills the wife of a right winger who had a website bashing Moore.

The rightwinger had no medical insurance. And while he said he was grateful for the help, maintained his anti-Moore views of Moore's work.

As I said, there is no cure for stupidity.