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discocrisco01

(1,684 posts)
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 09:41 AM Friday

Tech billionaires seem to be doom prepping. Should we all be worried?

Mark Zuckerberg is said to have started work on Koolau Ranch, his sprawling 1,400-acre compound on the Hawaiian island of Kauai, as far back as 2014.

It is set to include a shelter, complete with its own energy and food supplies, though the carpenters and electricians working on the site were banned from talking about it by non-disclosure agreements, according to a report by Wired magazine.

A six-foot wall blocked the project from view of a nearby road.

Asked last year if he was creating a doomsday bunker, the Facebook founder gave a flat "no". The underground space spanning some 5,000 square feet is, he explained, "just like a little shelter, it's like a basement".

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly17834524o

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NCDem47

(3,131 posts)
1. They know.
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 09:45 AM
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They know the hellscape they are creating and how it will end. Apocalypse or pitchforks.

yardwork

(68,300 posts)
2. He sounds like he's very paranoid.
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 09:49 AM
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He's one of the richest people in the world and he knows the billionaires all have targets on their backs. He probably can't go out in public without getting yelled at.

He's become isolated and paranoid. Look what happened to Howard Hughes. Musk is behaving the same way.

EYESORE 9001

(29,140 posts)
3. There is no fortress so strong that it cannot be breached
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 09:52 AM
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And even if it doesn’t get breached right away, you’re trapped inside a fucking bunker. Enjoying life to the fullest, eh? You won’t find me trying to break in for some of that tasty billionaire meat, however, plenty of others will try.

cachukis

(3,476 posts)
5. Read recently about a woman who attended Davos.
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 10:00 AM
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Her commentary explained how all the wealthy knew the consequences of their greed on the environment and economies. That force was beyond their control. Their attitude was to keep at it knowing they could enjoy themselves as it all came to a head.
We all see it coming, but many of us say the same thing.
When our leaders are controlled by the money, our voices don't hold much sway.
Fight back where we can, bailing might be enough to at least wreck on shore.

ThreeNoSeep

(236 posts)
6. Chance favors the well-prepared
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 10:00 AM
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Could this nonsense turn into the metaphorical zombie apocalypse or nuclear annihilation?
Possibly. But if that happens, we unwashed masses are doomed anyway.
It's more likely, in my opinion, that we have the same stupid shit we've been dealing with, just more of it.
I'm not really a prepper, but my household approaches the coming bad times with more of the Scout Motto attitude and the Church of LDS pragmatism.
I'd definitely be maintaining buffers in case there is an interruption in utilities and the distribution of supplies. Having an alternative local heating source in the winter has always been good practice. Toiletries are easy enough to stockpile, and a plan to acquire, or a supply of, fresh water is important.
Interruptions in medical supplies are also a problem.

Greybnk48

(10,626 posts)
8. Are they ignorant of the fact that their dominance will be a pyrrhic victory, or close to it?
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 10:19 AM
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If bunkers and isolation are necessary, what good will their money be?

They need to watch The Walking Dead or Fallout that follow this kind of hubris to its logical conclusion. They will have no more power than anyone else if things go that far south. Their compounds will be up for grabs.

themaguffin

(4,736 posts)
11. There are real reasons to be concerned, but & that said, ultra rich are also very weird and eccentric.
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 10:51 AM
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ret5hd

(21,852 posts)
12. they KEEP FORGETTING!!!
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 10:55 AM
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we don’t have to get in…

we just have to keep them from getting out!

3825-87867

(1,635 posts)
13. Guess he's not worried about "air pollution"...
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 11:00 AM
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Breathable air? We take it for granted.
It's a funny thing, that atmosphere. Seems we can get along with making water (a bit expensive) and growing food (inside is tougher and not as productive) but that atmosphere thingy is maybe more important because it's really everywhere. There are filters to try to keep out the bad stuff, but sooner or later those need changed since they don't last forever. AND...some of the stuff in the "atmosphere" may not be able to be filtered out, no matter how hard you try. Oh, people of means maybe can do it for longer than the rest of us, but in the end, when you can't breathe, nothing else matters.

If you live underground, you need to bring in "air" and that air can be filtered...to an extent. Sometimes things get into the "air" that nothing can stop or remove. Living in a billion dollar bunker, you are more dependent on clean air or water or even food right away. And if something causes problems with food and water those can be usually be controlled. But bad things in the air can't always be removed or controlled. See Covid 2020!

So while a billion dollar bunker may be a temporary reprieve from above ground catastrophe, there's no getting away from needing "air"...clean, SAFE, air and if something was carried by that air into a billion dollar bunker that happens to not be filterable or controlled and can't be easily removed or whatever, then nothing else really does matter.

Not indoor tennis courts...parties...eating...sleeping...or living.
And sometimes, bad stuff in the air isn't natural.

Midnight Writer

(24,860 posts)
14. I fixed a hole in my roof and stocked up on Chef Boyardee. That's about as prepared as I can afford to get.
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 11:17 AM
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Yes, I think the fools are going to wreck the planet in their lust for money.

Unfortunately, our technology is advancing much faster than our common sense.

NickB79

(20,128 posts)
15. With the reality of climate change, we should all be prepping a little
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 11:24 AM
Friday

On the course we're on, we're looking at a sizeable portion of global civilization collapsing by the end of the century, if not sooner.

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