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Kash Patel claims that 110,000 Chicagoans are active gang members! (Original Post) tblue37 Yesterday OP
Portland war zone tblue37 Yesterday #1
He may be wrong about a lot of things, but ... sleroy49 Yesterday #3
Source please! Wuddles440 Yesterday #5
Yes, this poster needs to provide a source. sop Yesterday #6
See post 4 Celerity Yesterday #7
Fucking sociopath choie Yesterday #2
In 2012 there were supposedly more than 150,000 Celerity Yesterday #4
Those are some big gangs The Madcap Yesterday #8
Gangs in Chicago Celerity Yesterday #9
Gang "membership" also includes those no longer active, or haele Yesterday #10
Police departments often falsely accuse and list young black men in "gang databases." sop 21 hrs ago #11

sleroy49

(58 posts)
3. He may be wrong about a lot of things, but ...
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 12:49 PM
Yesterday

That number is consistent with estimates from multiple agencies that have been made over the last 20 years.

The Madcap

(1,508 posts)
8. Those are some big gangs
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 01:19 PM
Yesterday

150,000 gang members / 70 gangs ~ 2 140 member/gang

That's a lot of underlings for a gang leader to keep track of.

Celerity

(52,449 posts)
9. Gangs in Chicago
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 01:32 PM
Yesterday
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangs_in_Chicago

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History

The first gangs in Chicago were loosely organized groups of European immigrants in the late 1800s. In 1910, Big Jim Colosimo founded the Chicago Outfit on the South Side. In the early 1950s, immigration to Chicago had picked up considerably, namely to the West Side and parts of the South Side with many coming from Puerto Rico. Demographic shifts and conflicts around this time led to the formation of many gangs, and the inception of a broader gang culture in Humboldt Park, and around other parts of the city. In the 1970s, gang-related crime and violence spiked, particularly with Hispanic-on-Hispanic homicides increasing in the summer of 1971 due to Latin Kings gang election meetings. In July 2021, federal agents participating in Operation Legend arrested 27 Black Disciples gang members associated with drugs and gun violations in the Englewood neighborhood on the South Side of Chicago.

In the first six months of 2025, Chicago saw a 33% reduction in homicides and a 38% reduction in shootings. PBS interviewed Jeff Asher, co-founder of AH Datalytics' Real-time Crime Index. While noting that the cause of the decrease in violent crime is unknown, ("It's literally a billion-dollar question in terms of if you knew the amount of resources and effort that you would put into it would be tremendous&quot , Asher reported that after COVID, the US had increased spending on social programs: a 90% increase in construction from local and state governments on social and neighborhood centers, a 50% increase in public safety spending construction, and a 20% increase in highway spending from state and local governments.[7] He speculated that these investments in troubled neighborhoods may have helped reduce crime rates, though many of these social programs were subsequently cut by the Trump administration.

Causes

Lack of opportunity and economic oppression especially in the form of redlining by Chicago's city hall and banks has caused working class citizens to turn to the sale of illicit drugs for income. Former Chicago Police Superintendent, Garry McCarthy, blamed Chicago's gang culture for its high rates of homicide and other violent crime, stating "It's very frustrating to know that it's like 7% of the population causes 80% of the violent crime... The gangs here are traditional gangs that are generational, if you will. The grandfather was a gang member, the father's a gang member, and the kid right now is going to be a gang member".

Structure

Most traditional Chicago street gangs, known as nations, fall under two main factions, called the People Nation and the Folk Nation. The People Nation has most, if not all, of its gangs under the "Almighty" moniker. The Folk Nation has most of its gangs divided into various sub-factions, the majority of which belong to an alliance called Latin Folks which are further divided into groups called Families. There are nations that are independent of both the Folk Nation and People Nation, such as the Black Soul Nation. Street gangs that are independent of Folks and People but retain similar identifiers and symbolism as well as maintain a hierarchical structure in membership are known as war crews. They do not identify as nations though they will engage in traditional gang activity and may conflict with nations as well as other crews. Street gangs that do not retain any semblance of traditional nations or war crews are known simply as cliques. Each individual gang is divided into sets which are territories spanning blocks or neighborhoods that may be combined to form supersets or divided further into subsets. Typically, a single set is based at a single intersection of city streets. There are currently over 90 active Chicago street gangs, with over 747 sets that have been identified by law enforcement.

Modern street gangs

Chicago-based street gang nations post-establishment of the Folk Nation and People Nation are as follows:

Folks Nation

Ambrose
Ashland Vikings
Black Disciples
Boss Pimps
Brazers
C-Notes
Campbell Boys
Gangster Disciples
Harrison Gents
Imperial Gangsters
Insane Deuces
Insane Dragons
Insane Gangster Satan Disciples
Insane Guess Boys
Insane Popes
Insane Two-Two Nation
Insane Two One Boys
King Cobras
Krazy Getdown Boys
La Raza Nation
Latin Disciples
Latin Dragon Nation
Latin Eagles
Latin Jivers
Latin Lovers
Latin Souls
Latin Stylers
Milwaukee Kings
Morgan Boys
Orquesta Albany
Outlaw Gangsters
Party People
Racine Boys
Ridgeway Lords
Simon City Royal
Sin City Boys
Spanish Cobras
Spanish Gangster Disciples
Two-Six
YLO Cobras
YLO Disciples

People Nation

Almighty Saints
Almighty Vice Lord Nation
Bishops
Black P. Stones
Chicago Gaylords
Chi-West
Familia Stones
Four Corner Hustlers
Insane Popes
Insane Unknowns
Latin Angels
Latin Brothers
Latin Counts
Latin Kings
Latin Pachucos
Latin Stones
Mickey Cobras
Noble Knights
Party Players
Spanish Lords
Spanish Vice Lords
Stoned Freaks
Twelfth Street Players
Villa Loboes

Independent Nations

Black Gangsters
Black Souls
TAP Boyz
Jousters

Transplanted Gangs

Bloods
Crips
Norteños
Sureños
Playboys

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haele

(14,706 posts)
10. Gang "membership" also includes those no longer active, or
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 01:38 PM
Yesterday

Who might have similar tattoos worn by past or present gang members.
I used to live in a neighborhood that was at the border of three major long term gangs. There were a lot of older people who lived there still considered "gang members" simply because of a tattoo or they went to school and were friends with a gang member.
My former next door neighbor was barely associated with a gang before he finished high school, he worked for the City, but he would occasionally get hassled by the older cops as a gang member because he used to play varsity sports in high school and was a team buddy with a gang member currently serving life in San Quentin for shooting at wounding a cop while acting as a mule.
He's considered "a gang member who never got caught" because he's still living in his childhood home after his mom died and Dad is in a nursing home. He didn't leave; he's still associated with a neighborhood clique/gang that had merged into another gang and moved away decades ago.

Is he still really a gang member? He says no. But the old cops in his sector say he is, and his name is still on an FBI list of gang associates simply because he grew up in a gang neighborhood.


sop

(16,388 posts)
11. Police departments often falsely accuse and list young black men in "gang databases."
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 04:23 PM
21 hrs ago

"Guilt By Association, How Police Databases Punish Black and LatinX Youth"

"Executive Summary:"

"Police increasingly replace stop-and-frisk practices with databases that crudely profile Black and Latinx youth based on their neighborhoods, peer groups, and clothing."

"These databases ruin lives: police typecast minority youths as gang members without evidence, putting them at risk of false arrest and wrongful deportation."

"Many police departments refuse to implement due process safeguards despite clear evidence that their databases are based on racial profiling, not evidence."

"Even the most rigorous safeguards would be insufficient to mitigate the full range of harms that these databases pose. They must be eliminated in their entirety."

"According to the NYPD, ludicrous non-criminal criteria including the activities of one’s cousins, neighbors, or classmates, the location of one’s home, and the colors of one’s clothing are enough to land a person in a gang database.”

https://www.stopspying.org/guilt-by-association

"LAPD Officers Accused of Falsely Labeling People as Gang Members Now Face Charges...Prosecutors have alleged three Los Angeles Police Department officers conspired to submit false information about innocent motorists and pedestrians stopped during crime suppression patrols."

"NBC4’s I-Team first reported in January that more than a dozen LAPD officers were under investigation for allegedly submitting field interview reports that falsely labeled people they questioned as gang members, data that was later added to a statewide law enforcement database of gang intelligence information called 'Cal-Gangs.' "

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/investigations/lapd-officers-charged-false-data-police-patrol-gang-members/2394068/

"Parents angry after finding children's names on police 'gang lists' "

https://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/parents-angry-after-finding-childrens-names-on-police-gang-lists/1244939/

There are many other similar cases of police departments throughout the country falsely listing young men of color on gang databases.

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