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This recognition of the struggle of all Venezuelans is a boost to conclude our task: to conquer Freedom.
We are on the threshold of victory and today, more than ever, we count on President Trump, the people of the United States, the peoples of Latin America, and the democratic nations of the world as our principal allies to achieve Freedom and democracy.
I dedicate this prize to the suffering people of Venezuela and to President Trump for his decisive support of our cause!
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Irish_Dem
(76,039 posts)ananda
(33,551 posts)I mean, who the fuck is she?
Irish_Dem
(76,039 posts)ananda
(33,551 posts)This is all VERY disconcerting.
Irish_Dem
(76,039 posts)But they are cozying up to Putin's pals.
ananda
(33,551 posts)I'm still in elementary cynicism class.
That makes sense.
Irish_Dem
(76,039 posts)You have to think of the worst case scenario then multiply it by ten,
make it even worse. And you will still be too optimistic.
ananda
(33,551 posts)To get knowledge and perspective on things.
All I can say about this turn of events is that...
John Stuart Mill would be turning in his grave.
Irish_Dem
(76,039 posts)Very much hope they are wrong.
Yes what would JS Mill say looking at Trump, a president of the US, a man whose strongest
value is making people as miserable as possible.
ananda
(33,551 posts)What can an educated political philosopher
say to a demented toddler with the mentality
of a spoiled two year old?
Irish_Dem
(76,039 posts)Talking to a man child who believes the opposite.
Irish_Dem
(76,039 posts)And I believe is probably quite accurate sad to say.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20712007
ananda
(33,551 posts)To me, that goes way beyond cynicism...
looking down the rabbit hole of depraved insanity
where we may now be living.
I still think often of that great film Marat/Sade.
This asylum we call America seems like a meta
version of that play.
Irish_Dem
(76,039 posts)But missed the AI live forever part of it.
But it is not far fetched. Musk has talked about moving mankind to Mars.
So human DNA can live forever. And his techie pals would be the ones going.
Not us peasants.
And the billionaires are not deliberately destroying the US and the planet
without a Plan B. We know they are building their hideaways and safe spots.
And yes they are bored, they have everything. What is next?
Immortality.
The theory has legs.
Yes the combination of the darkest evil and most insane insanity is right before us.
ananda
(33,551 posts)and physical chaos, but I didn't realize it had gone this
far already.
Have you watched any of the Dennis Potter TV dramas
from the 80' and 90"s.
I would add them to your watch list.. probably the
greatest TV ever produced. It even brought out great
acting in normally mediocre eye candy like Joanne
Whalley.
Anyhow, one of them, starring the very great Albert
Finney, is called Cold Lazarus. I won't spoil it for
you, but you'll see the connection immediately.
I started with The Singing Detective, starring the
also great Michael Gambon and Patrick Malahide.
All of Potter's shows represent the greatest TV ever
made.
Irish_Dem
(76,039 posts)I am surprised because I am a huge fan of all British TV productions.
But in the 80's I was working full time and going to graduate school full time
so I missed a lot of pop culture and TV shows. 90s were also a whirl.
I will put them on my winter watch list.
Thanks.
I don't know how far things have gone.
But we are all quite distressed for a reason.
And we know behind the scenes is worse.
ananda
(33,551 posts)A friend of mine recommended him, and boy did I get
hooked... just the way I did after another friend recommended
Tarkovsky early in this century.
You won't be disappointed, believe me.
Potter can be dark though, but his stuff is just so
high chakra... it brings the best out of everyone
in every production.
Irish_Dem
(76,039 posts)And they are not simplistic, but complex, perfectly acted drama.
It is hard to go back to American literature and TV after getting hooked
on the British stuff.
Thanks, I put it on my watch list.
ananda
(33,551 posts)I think drama is England's native high chakra energy.
For France, it's art and architecture; though I must say
their TV has shown greatness too.
All those Walter Presents shows on PBS (Prime) are all
very very good, particularly Astrid.
For Russia it's Just about everything: dance, literature,
and film for sure.
It amazes me how a country that never really made the
transition to a freer, more enlightened form of government
could produce such great art. But there it is.
Irish_Dem
(76,039 posts)The English are the ultimate wordsmiths and dramatic artists.
Their food is not worth a darn, but just across the channel you have
some of the world's best cuisine. Yes and art, etc.
Yes Russians are such an artistic people, but their art is always suppressed.
Perhaps there is a relationship between artistic expression, suffering and repression.
Some of the 60's greatest music in the US was about youth rebelling and wanting a better world.
IcyPeas
(24,383 posts)First episode......
ananda
(33,551 posts)I hope the youtube version has the Commentary too.
It should be there somewhere, I should think.
IcyPeas
(24,383 posts)Karaoke is also on youtube which seems to be related... a prequel? One is set in present times and the other in the future.
There's a ton of his stuff on youtube. Thanks for recommending him.
He hated Rupert Murdoch. From his Wikipedia page:
ananda
(33,551 posts)Thanks for noticing that.
Also, I'd love to hear what you guys think of all this.
Locutusofborg
(573 posts)Is composed of FIVE people. Blaming the entire nation of Norway for the actions of five people (and we don't know if the vote was 3 to 2 or 4 to 1) is just plain silly.
FBaggins
(28,469 posts)Maduro is a close Putin ally. Why would the opposition that has to be in hiding from his regime also be a friend of Putin?
Irish_Dem
(76,039 posts)Trump who is an ally of Putin.
FBaggins
(28,469 posts)Not everything is a conspiracy
GreenWave
(11,762 posts)Irish_Dem
(76,039 posts)ananda
(33,551 posts)I call it an idiotic disaster,
and that feels too kind.
Irish_Dem
(76,039 posts)ananda
(33,551 posts)All this just wears down your thought process sometimes.
It sure does mine. It's just constant daily shock and awe.
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IbogaProject
(5,138 posts)The West and especially American Oil want to get back into Venezuela so bad. Chavez partnered with Castro to fund an innovative medical school focusing on students of color to put doctors into underserved communities around the world.
Celerity
(52,449 posts)
No shock at all she is sucking up to Trumpy.
He has praised her before.

BlueKota
(4,683 posts)I wasn't aware of that.
AloeVera
(3,816 posts)She's a right-wing ideologue akin to maga who wants to sell off Venezuela to the highest bidder aka the US. She actually advocated for the extreme sanctions that have caused so much suffering for ordinary Venezuelans. She is probably rooting for a US invasion and regime change too, she has advocated for it. She is not for "the people"as she claims, nor for "peace", that's for sure.
FormerOstrich
(2,846 posts)The definition of conquer:
It probably is accurate to say that some want to take control of freedom by use of military force so they can contain it....even though I don't think that is what she intended to say.
Igel
(37,138 posts)Below there's something from her feed, "La libertad se conquista cada dia."
Yes, "Liberty's conquered each day." But it rings false, that translation.
Helpful bilingual dictionary with examples?
"Desde los inicios, nuestra visión ha sido conquistar la excelencia." From the start, our vision has been to achieve/*conquer excellence. (* means 'wrong word choice').
"El chef se propuso conquistar a los comensales con sus platos innovadores y sabrosos." The chef proposed winning over the diners with innovative and delicious dishes. (No, the actual plates weren't going to be delicious, so sometimes it's obvious you have to sort through the possible bad interpretations to get to one that's reasonable.)
And in English, as in Spanish, you can conquer/conquistar a heart/corazon--which by no means entails seizing and occupying it by military force.
Her English was a bit too derivative of her Spanish, which isn't uncommon. (It's why I've always thought translating into your 2nd or 3rd language is a bad idea if there's any other option.)
FormerOstrich
(2,846 posts)the explanation....I feel sort of like a heel that I didn't take the language translations into consideration. I should have known....
thanks!
Bluestocking
(333 posts)Does not sound very peaceful
newdeal2
(4,301 posts)WTF was this decision based on?
Hekate
(99,746 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(25,796 posts)Hekate
(99,746 posts)Celerity
(52,449 posts)Shrek
(4,332 posts)Cha
(314,891 posts)the "peace" prize winner.. smh on that.
TY
Shrek
(4,332 posts)I didnt believe this was real. I thought it was fake news. Ive gone from wholeheartedly applauding you to actually disliking you. Youve dedicated your prize to a wannabe dictator. The exact opposite of what you said you stood for.
I actually feel Ive been conned.
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Cha
(314,891 posts)"peace" prize committee?/
leftstreet
(37,518 posts)DFW
(59,108 posts)Chávez, Maduro and their socialists already DID conquer freedom in Venezeula.
How about trying to win it back, instead?
Lovie777
(20,643 posts)a kennedy
(34,594 posts)Fawk her. 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬
chowder66
(11,409 posts)The timing was meaningful. Hours after the Trump administration rescinded the oil license that allowed Chevron to operate in Venezuela, Donald Trump Jr released an episode of his podcast, Triggered, with María Corina Machado as its guest. Don Jr presented Machados story of persecution under the chavista regimes as a more acute version of what Trump suffered under Biden, according to himself, and labeled her a guardian of Western civilization like Trump, Milei, Meloni and Bukele. María Corina started by defining the Maduro regime as a gang linked with enemies of the U.S., such as Hezbollah and Iran (she did not mention Russia), the criminal hub of the Americas, a safe haven for all the enemies of Western democracies, a true threat for the safety and prosperity of the United States.
She went on to assure that all the income the State gets from very obscure oil licenses goes to propaganda and repression, that thousands of Venezuelan passports were delivered to Islamic terrorists, and that Cartel de los Soles is linked to Tren de Aragua. María Corina said that Maduro is the head of Tren de Aragua, and that he promoted the migration of honest, good people to destabilize the region.
When Don Jr asked her whether Maduro opened the prisons to invade the U.S. with criminals, Machado answered tangentially. She repeated that Tren de Aragua has operations in several countries, including the U.S., that it funds the government, and added that Diosdado Cabello received Tren de Aragua members like heroes, referring to the Venezuelans deported by the Trump government (its unknown if they belonged to the gang) after the visit of special envoy Richard Grenell. Don Jr said that he has met Venezuelans in Florida who escaped from Maduro, and that it was Biden who allowed illegal and dangerous Venezuelans to enter the country. Machado said that most of the Venezuelans abroad are good peopleand Don Jr agreed, aware that many of them voted for his father, after which Machado agreed that Bidens was a weak government that allowed Maduro to survive.
While Don Jr kept turning the conversation back to criticizing Biden and celebrating his father, Maria Corina was attempting to present him the wildly optimistic pitch that Venezuela just needs decisive, urgent help from the U.S. to end, peacefully, the rule of Maduro, for the benefit of both Americans and Venezuelans. She deliberately omitted mentioning Russia as a backer and insisted that the military is against Maduro, but under surveillance by Chinese technology.
A lot more.....
https://www.caracaschronicles.com/2025/03/16/the-making-of-maria-corina-machado/
hamsterjill
(16,633 posts)I'm SO sick of people kissing his fucking ass.
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B.See
(6,951 posts)to Trump. Like those two (checks notes) "suckers and losers" who gave away their Purple Hearts to the 5 time DRAFT DODGER.
Hell, maybe Trump MIGHT even stop indiscriminately blowing Venezuelan boats out of the water...
maybe.
dalton99a
(90,645 posts)Oligarchs hate democracy
Cha
(314,891 posts)They sure did... all I'm reading about it.. one Mariia Machado does Not deserve any "peace" prize..
There will be Blowback and the committee needs to explain themselves if they can.
Justice matters.
(8,975 posts)gaslighting liberals by pretending they don't suck up to billionnaires themselves.
They have to donate a million-dollars worth of their national currency to every winner after all.
Where the f do they get that sheer amount of money to donate from anyway? Norvegean taxpayers??
mvd
(65,746 posts)Makes her fight less strong in my opinion.
malaise
(290,000 posts)That is.all
snowybirdie
(6,391 posts)Who was last years Nobel Peace Prize winner? See how soon you forget. Going to chilland relax, its Friday evening.
Shrek
(4,332 posts)And then she goes and dedicates the award to him.
People are justifiably unhappy.
Xavier Breath
(6,180 posts)But I guess the answer is to just shut up already and pickle our livers. We can be such Negative Nancys here, dontcha know.
edbermac
(16,352 posts)Somebody should give her a clue.
Rebl2
(17,076 posts)Away from her
JBTaurus83
(695 posts)Went into hiding with the fascist Argentina regime. She is probably no better than the orange slob.
tavernier
(13,994 posts)and you pick up a cockroach.
Kid Berwyn
(22,100 posts)Thats a hoot!