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Stock market CRASHED today. (Original Post) AZ8theist Oct 10 OP
Trump was so butthurt about losing his precious prize C_U_L8R Oct 10 #1
Down 870 at closing. multigraincracker Oct 10 #2
Dropped like a stone about 11:30am bucolic_frolic Oct 10 #3
Huh! I thought it crashed because he didn't "win" the Nobel Peace Prize. patphil Oct 10 #4
DOW is still Greg_In_SF Oct 10 #5
The market is bullshit. This will end like 29...although Trump and his billionaire friends will Demsrule86 Oct 10 #7
No it won't Greg_In_SF Oct 10 #9
Like 00 and 08 5 too many alarms ringing uponit7771 Oct 12 #26
They were saying that in 1987 and 2000. It happened. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 12 #32
While the market has some major issues, it's not going to crash like 1929 EdmondDantes_ Oct 10 #11
Nope, more like 08, has 5 too many alarms ringing uponit7771 Oct 12 #27
But the 2007 crash was nothing like the 1929 crash that spiraled into the Great Depression and WWIi EdmondDantes_ Oct 12 #37
True, MAGA will bail out their rich buddies and screw everyone else who can't afford to lose 5 years of equity value ... uponit7771 Oct 12 #43
To put that in perspective, since Trump took office, the DJIA is up just half (%-wise) compared to Biden's final year. W_HAMILTON Oct 10 #13
2024 was a hell of a year for the market WarGamer Oct 10 #16
And 2023 was even better. W_HAMILTON Oct 11 #20
2021 was way better... WarGamer Oct 12 #23
The Dow is not the market. You can do better. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 12 #33
Ahh, wouldn't it be nice to return to the good 'ole Biden days? W_HAMILTON Oct 12 #38
Not the very first vax surge... got my two in May/June, IIRC WarGamer Oct 12 #48
DJIA is not the market. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 12 #34
That's not a good thing seeing how far it fell uponit7771 Oct 12 #25
You are cherry picking edhopper Oct 12 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Oct 12 #39
Dow is not the market. It is basically arithmetic BS. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 12 #31
Equity markets fluctuate...always have, always will. anciano Oct 10 #6
1.8% isn't a crash Fiendish Thingy Oct 10 #8
Sorry, "crash" was hyperbole. AZ8theist Oct 11 #21
Well, hopefully it was an equally small percentage Fiendish Thingy Oct 11 #22
If you are a billionaire with lots of cash doc03 Oct 10 #10
It did not CRASH, Disaffected Oct 10 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author W_HAMILTON Oct 10 #14
To anyone that has ever complained about Democrats being bad at messaging... W_HAMILTON Oct 10 #15
I don't see anyone defending Trump EdmondDantes_ Oct 12 #41
I basicly agree with your post but add that 2.7 pct is dramatic (though not a crash). And tRump's tantrum sparked it. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 12 #45
He will now say something over the weekend to pump it back up and place his buy orders. GoodRaisin Oct 10 #17
The market Greg_In_SF Oct 10 #18
Tuesday then. GoodRaisin Oct 10 #19
Stock market is open Monday. Bond markets are closed. n/t LuckyCharms Oct 12 #24
Shows how much you know about what you are talking about. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 12 #35
Just to be clear, gab13by13 Oct 12 #29
Evidence? Or your sayso? Bernardo de La Paz Oct 12 #36
There's this report EdmondDantes_ Oct 12 #42
Very interesting. Thank you. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 12 #44
Bad day on Wall Street SocialDemocrat61 Oct 12 #30
He's periodically crashing the stock market on purpose to hurt the middle class & enrich the already rich. lark Oct 12 #40
Instead, I think he is profoundly incompetent, but there may be people using inside knowledge Bernardo de La Paz Oct 12 #46
He has stated previously that stock market crashes are wonderful for the rich. lark Oct 12 #47

C_U_L8R

(48,374 posts)
1. Trump was so butthurt about losing his precious prize
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 05:05 PM
Oct 10

that he lashed out at China and spooked investors.
He's such a fucking idiot. All spite and no brain.

bucolic_frolic

(52,972 posts)
3. Dropped like a stone about 11:30am
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 05:11 PM
Oct 10

I said what's going on .... Trump announces new tariffs on China.

Tech and AI got smashed. Of course once this plays out he'll TACO and up we go. Play the cycles.

patphil

(8,422 posts)
4. Huh! I thought it crashed because he didn't "win" the Nobel Peace Prize.
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 05:13 PM
Oct 10

He's got masked "brown shirts" running around the country, kidnapping people and putting them in jail without due process, and national guard troops in major cities terrorizing the general population.
This is his idea of peace.
He's also talking about having the military "train for war" on the streets of our cities.
He thinks this has no impact on getting the peace prize.
Peace prize, NO! POS prize, much better chance.

Demsrule86

(71,264 posts)
7. The market is bullshit. This will end like 29...although Trump and his billionaire friends will
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 05:29 PM
Oct 10

fare better than most. Trump is the grifter in chief.

EdmondDantes_

(1,053 posts)
11. While the market has some major issues, it's not going to crash like 1929
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 06:29 PM
Oct 10

There are more breaks in the system and protections. We do need a return to not trying to go for unicorns and everyone over biasing towards "potential" over actual products, but those started long before Trump.

EdmondDantes_

(1,053 posts)
37. But the 2007 crash was nothing like the 1929 crash that spiraled into the Great Depression and WWIi
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 09:26 AM
Oct 12

We globally know far more about the economy than in 1929 so that level of crash is almost certain to not happen again.

uponit7771

(93,338 posts)
43. True, MAGA will bail out their rich buddies and screw everyone else who can't afford to lose 5 years of equity value ...
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 11:39 AM
Oct 12

... which is how long it took the DOW to return to 08 peak after fall of about 50% value.

In that return to index parity the US spent trillions devaluing the currency so the bail out to mega rich weirdos wasn't "free"

On the other hand it does look like we're in a melt up

W_HAMILTON

(9,739 posts)
13. To put that in perspective, since Trump took office, the DJIA is up just half (%-wise) compared to Biden's final year.
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 07:34 PM
Oct 10

But, hey, who cares about better and more stable returns when you can have volatility and fascism!

W_HAMILTON

(9,739 posts)
38. Ahh, wouldn't it be nice to return to the good 'ole Biden days?
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 09:33 AM
Oct 12

Even though elected MAGAts claimed they were back and """open for business""" in the summer/early fall of 2020, we know the country didn't really open back up until Biden took office in 2021 and his administration helped coordinate a successful roll out of the vaccine, which was what led Americans to finally feel safe to return to pre-COVID life.

When Trump was in office, the timeline for me getting my vaccine was September 2021 at the earliest; Biden took over and I was able to get my vaccine in either March or April, I can't remember which.

Thank you, Joe Biden!

PS - When did you get you're vaccine, WarGamer?

edhopper

(36,742 posts)
28. You are cherry picking
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 05:37 AM
Oct 12

to make Trump look good.
The Dow was at 44500 when the Dolt took office, he then crashed it to the April low point you chose.
It is now at 45400. That is a 900 point gain since the festering boil took office. Or about 2% in 10 months.
And the bottom is a long way down.

Response to edhopper (Reply #28)

Fiendish Thingy

(21,203 posts)
8. 1.8% isn't a crash
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 05:29 PM
Oct 10

It isn’t even a correction.

How soon we forget the big dive of last spring, which has since recovered and gained further.

Market volatility is a fact of life in the Trump era.

AZ8theist

(6,945 posts)
21. Sorry, "crash" was hyperbole.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 05:54 PM
Oct 11

But when my IRA lost $11G in one day, it sure feels like a crash to me.

Fiendish Thingy

(21,203 posts)
22. Well, hopefully it was an equally small percentage
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 07:25 PM
Oct 11

Otherwise you’re overweighted in some funds.

doc03

(38,562 posts)
10. If you are a billionaire with lots of cash
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 06:15 PM
Oct 10

it is just another engineered buying opertunity. Market goes up anounce tariffs market goes down.

Response to Disaffected (Reply #12)

W_HAMILTON

(9,739 posts)
15. To anyone that has ever complained about Democrats being bad at messaging...
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 07:45 PM
Oct 10

...I sure as hell hope you aren't one of the ones in this thread defending Trump after he alone caused the market to drop damn near 1,000 points solely because the fascist had another temper tantrum.

EdmondDantes_

(1,053 posts)
41. I don't see anyone defending Trump
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 10:48 AM
Oct 12

I see people pointing out this is a small percentage change. Bringing context into the discussion is a good thing.

Bernardo de La Paz

(59,852 posts)
45. I basicly agree with your post but add that 2.7 pct is dramatic (though not a crash). And tRump's tantrum sparked it.
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 11:55 AM
Oct 12

Just that morning an analyst had dumped cold water on the "irrational exuberance" case by saying that the rise has been "orderly", which it kind of has been since May after the April fall and recovery.

2.7 percent in one day is not an orderly temporary pause or pull back. It might turn out to be one or the other of those, but orderly it is not.

GoodRaisin

(10,606 posts)
17. He will now say something over the weekend to pump it back up and place his buy orders.
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 07:50 PM
Oct 10

Signaling to his billionaire friends, and It will soar on Monday.

gab13by13

(30,253 posts)
29. Just to be clear,
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 07:18 AM
Oct 12

Right before Krasnov proclaimed he was adding tariffs on China causing the market and Crypto to tank, someone shorted Crypto and made a boat load of money.

EdmondDantes_

(1,053 posts)
42. There's this report
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 10:59 AM
Oct 12
https://www.tradingview.com/news/cryptonews:4c6d1252f094b:0-early-bitcoin-whale-shorted-1-1b-right-before-tariffs-now-up-27m-how-did-he-know/

Not sure if it's a reliable source but the Blockchain record is a thing. Of course being unrealized gains doesn't inherently mean they are going to realize said gains because the market (crypto and otherwise) goes up and down.

lark

(25,605 posts)
40. He's periodically crashing the stock market on purpose to hurt the middle class & enrich the already rich.
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 10:28 AM
Oct 12

He's doing it purposefully to fuck us over and to profiteer for himself.

Bernardo de La Paz

(59,852 posts)
46. Instead, I think he is profoundly incompetent, but there may be people using inside knowledge
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 11:59 AM
Oct 12

His grifting takes other forms, most recently with the tRumpRX scheme for drugs that has junior on the board of directors of the company centrally involved.

lark

(25,605 posts)
47. He has stated previously that stock market crashes are wonderful for the rich.
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 12:04 PM
Oct 12

This is something he's pushed for years - starting back when he had a half way functioning brain. He grifts in so many ways, Im sure we're not privy to even a fraction of his treachedy and theft.

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