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Jack Valentino

(3,528 posts)
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 11:07 PM 15 hrs ago

The future "despotic dictatorial gov't" which pro-gun advocates claimed to fear is NOW HERE!--- and RIGHT-WING

it is a Republican right-wing government,
as I often predicted such an authoritarian government would be, if it actually came to pass...


and ironically, members of this government have ALREADY proposed taking away gun rights
from one segment of the population--- trans people:

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/04/politics/transgender-firearms-justice-department-second-amendment


So far, the vast majority of those '2nd Amendment' advocates have proven to be no help whatsoever
against a dictatorial government, now that it is upon us... Instead, they are more in this class of persons:

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me


(with this post, I am NOT advocating for violence, by any means---
but I think we can now safely dispense with the argument that
"protecting 2nd Amendment rights" to extremes
is ANY protection whatsoever against a 'future dictatorial government' !!!)

Those people won't even open their mouths, let alone 'defend liberty' by virtue of being armed....
in fact, most of them sympathize with the dictator, in this case...





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The future "despotic dictatorial gov't" which pro-gun advocates claimed to fear is NOW HERE!--- and RIGHT-WING (Original Post) Jack Valentino 15 hrs ago OP
I'm curious. markodochartaigh 14 hrs ago #1
NO! Did you NOT READ my post????!!!! I specifically stated that Jack Valentino 14 hrs ago #2
Ah, you misread my post, perhaps it was poorly worded Jack Valentino 14 hrs ago #3
The right wing actually warned about this. They lied about the who. Norrrm 14 hrs ago #4
I don't think "the masses" lied about what they claimed to believe--- Jack Valentino 14 hrs ago #5
"Against tyranny" is their fake public persona Oneironaut 13 hrs ago #6

markodochartaigh

(4,280 posts)
1. I'm curious.
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 11:27 PM
14 hrs ago

"It is a Republican right-wing government, not a Democratic-controlled government,
as I often predicted such an authoritarian government would be, if it actually came to be"

Did you actually believe that in the US if an authoritarian government arose, that it would be an authoritarian Democratic controlled government?

Jack Valentino

(3,528 posts)
2. NO! Did you NOT READ my post????!!!! I specifically stated that
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 11:32 PM
14 hrs ago

I frequently predicted that if such a government EVER arose in this country,
that it WOULD BE RIGHT-WING!

The people who believed it would be left-wing were the vast majority of pro-gun advocates
who habitually argued that ANY attempt at sensible regulation of gun ownership
was some kind of 'threat to the foundations of liberty'---


And NOW that the 'threat to the foundations of liberty' is actually HERE,
they won't even open their mouths to protest it!

Jack Valentino

(3,528 posts)
3. Ah, you misread my post, perhaps it was poorly worded
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 11:35 PM
14 hrs ago

I often predicted that it would be a right-wing government, and NOT a left-wing government
which would prove dictatorial...

Victim of my own "run-on sentences", now I understand your request for clarification after re-reading my response...
LOL

Jack Valentino

(3,528 posts)
5. I don't think "the masses" lied about what they claimed to believe---
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 11:42 PM
14 hrs ago

but they believed too much in the NRA rhetoric
which claimed such a dictatorship could 'only' arise from the left
with no possibility that one could arise from the right---


Perhaps they slept through Nixon and the Kent State massacre....
(or weren't born yet when those things happened)

Oneironaut

(6,134 posts)
6. "Against tyranny" is their fake public persona
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 12:32 AM
13 hrs ago

Most of them want an authoritarian government that they benefit from. Especially the militia types, whom are mostly Nazis.

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