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[AZJonnie]

1. I doubt US President Donald Trump wrote a single word, nor contributed a single thought, to this "plan", but okay

So is good news or bad news for the people of the region, this plan?

If the UN approves it, seems safe to presume it's at least very good for Israel, how about for the Palestinians?

Asking honestly (and ignorantly about what's actually in it, to be clear).

[muriel_volestrangler]

4. Palestinian foreign minister: "a necessary first step on a long road"

The Palestinian foreign minister has described the UN security council resolution endorsing Donald Trump’s plan to end the war in Gaza as a necessary first step on a long road towards peace, even as Hamas rejected it as a form of international guardianship with which it will not cooperate.

Arab state leaders who have reluctantly adopted the plan said the US urgently needed to set out the composition of the proposed Palestinian technocratic committee that is to deliver services inside Gaza, as well as the leadership of the international stabilisation force (ISF), which is supposed to oversee security. Membership of the board of peace, the body that is to oversee the ISF and a Palestinian civilian police force also remains unknown.
...
A British diplomat said weapon decommissioning would be the most difficult part of the process and was only likely to take place in the context of a full Israeli withdrawal from Gaza. Many Palestinians are unhappy that the UN resolution only set out the most conditional path to a Palestinian state that brings together Gaza and the West Bank.

But Varsen Aghabekian Shahin, the Palestinian foreign minister, said: “The UN resolution is the first step in a long road towards peace. That step was needed because we could not embark on anything else before we had a ceasefire.”

She said that although the US president’s plan alluded to possible Palestinian statehood taking place only after the Palestinian Authority carried out reforms, that issue could be taken up later. “As long as these elements are in there, we’re happy with this first step,” Shahin said.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/nov/18/un-resolution-gaza-trump-plan-palestinian-foreign-minister-hamas

[AZJonnie]

9. Thank you!

Well then this sounds like some pretty good news for the peoples of a region that deserve some good news. Nice to hear of some progress both sides are at least nominally happy with. Thanks again for taking your time to inform me

[iemanja]

5. No President does

Little Marco would have handled it, and the writers would be under him at State.

[AZJonnie]

8. Thanks!

I could envision certain other Presidents possibly taking some role (i.e. making small contributions) to something like this, in particular Clinton and Obama, whereas I cannot fathom Trump even doing the tiniest bit of actual work on the nitty-gritty, other than interject that he wants to spend the least amount of US money possible, and esp. as it relates to the Palestinian peoples.

Really I just thought "The US-led Plan" is probably a more accurate a description than "US President Donald Trump(s) Plan".

But maybe I'm wrong, and he was The Most Involved of Any President EVER and everyone is saying they've never seen anything like it!

[Halicarnassus]

2. Well it *seems* okay.

I concur, Trump had nothing to do with this. They wouldn’t be able to keep his attention for 20 points. They’d have to jangle sone keys in front of his face to keep him focused.

[GJGCA]

3. Some points from The Guardian's coverage

The resolution, passed by a vote of 13-0 with abstentions by China and Russia. ...

The inclusion of references to an independent Palestine was the price the US paid for backing from the Arab and Islamic world, who are expected to provide peacekeepers for an international stabilisation force (ISF).

However, on the eve of the UN vote, the Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, restated his government’s adamant opposition to the creation of a Palestinian state, raising questions on whether Israel will allow the implementation of the UN-mandated proposals.

After the vote, Hamas rejected what it described as an imposed “international guardianship mechanism” and insisted it would not disarm.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/nov/18/un-security-council-votes-to-endorse-donald-trumps-gaza-plan

[iemanja]

6. So a peace deal which both parties have said they will not honor.

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[moondust]

7. It's not really Trump's plan.

Many (including me) have been saying for years that Gaza and probably the West Bank needed a multinational peacekeeping force. Such a force could have likely prevented the Hamas attack two years ago and the 69,000 Palestinian deaths that have followed.

[LEMAUS]

10. Shame on the world community. Let the Palestinians decide their future.