I hope I'm so wrong about this, but it has crossed my mind?

[imanamerican63]

So, the Kirk’s assassination was a right wing nut, yet they pounded their chests saying it was Antfa or another far left group. Remember? It didn’t turn out that way after all!

What is going to be this time around?

What happens when they get wrong again?

They will still find a way to pin it the left just like they have in the past!

Don’t be shocked or alarmed, but at the same time don’t believe what anyone says! It’s who they are! Manipulative and evil people who don’t care about the truth!

[LoisB]

1. Your last sentence says it all.

[wcmagumba]

2. They will blame the left no matter what, it's how they roll...liars always...

[PuraVidaDreamin]

3. Cornered Rats

RAT
Russian
Asset
Trump

[Deuxcents]

4. Haven't heard anything about the person who shot and winged TSF's ear at a rally..or the medical reports

[Bluetus]

21. The problem with no transparency about the Trump shooting incident

is that it seems completely implausible that Trump could have been hit, and then show absolutely no damage to the ear just several days later. Trump jumped up as if in a well rehearsed show, when one would have thought that the Secret Service would have kept him on the ground and immediately evacuated him. But OK, Trump has a monumental ego and is an experienced showman, so maybe he just grabbed the moment. It could have happened that way. It is possible, but it seems about as unlikely as the Kennedy magic bullet. And there was no investigation as far as the public knows.

So we have no basis for judging whether Trump was actually hit or this was a carefully staged show. And the issue is that if it was a staged show, that says the Trump regime is perfectly happy killing two people in that instance, including one who seemed to be completely innocent. That would be a monstrous act, and nobody wants to believe that could possibly be true.

However, in the horrific scenario that it was a managed show, that would mean that Kirk's killing could have been the same as well as this incident -- in other words, if there is a complete disregard for human life in the service of keeping this regime in power, that puts events in a different light. Certainly, we know there is a complete disregard for human life as Trump tries to create a pretense for starting a war in Venezuela.

Let's all pray that the Trump regime is not this monstrous. But let's keep our eyes open and keep pressing for accountability and transparency.

[ybbor]

22. My first thought was staged

I don’t doubt for a minute that they are not above this. He wants to impose martial law, or his spelling, marshal. This is an opportunity for him to consider it. A cornered rat will do any number of things to save their ass.

Unfortunately, these are the times we live in! If they would have just had the stones to convict his ass during the second impeachment. Cowards!!

[Deuxcents]

23. It's not what they say, it's what they do. Heard that from Rachel and I believe it..

[Mike Nelson]

5. They have two possibilities...

1. Killer was a "left-wing lunatic"
2. Killer was "indoctrinated" to become a "left-wing lunatic"

[Silent Type]

6. Kirk's killer was a gun nut, incel, etc. Otherwise, I'm not sure one can build much

of a case against Robinson as a right winger. Just another disturbed killer with access to guns.

https://www.npr.org/2025/09/18/nx-s1-5544446/charlie-kirk-suspect-shooter-motive

[imanamerican63]

7. My point was they will not responsibility.

You made a very good valid point.

[TommyT139]

12. Are you thinking of someone else?

Kirk's shooter was far from an incel. He may in fact had as a partial motive Charlie Kirk's incitement of hatred towards trans people. Tyler whasthisname was not an involuntary celibate.

[Silent Type]

15. No. Still believe he's typical insecure person/incel looking for 15 minutes. As much as we want him to be a white winger

gonna be a tough case to make.

[TommyT139]

17. I'm not saying he's a rightwinger or not

Just that if someone has a person they are dating, they are not an incel.

People do date trans folks, and it counts as a regular relationship.

The obsessions and motivations of incels have the capacity to do great harm when acted upon, but it's a different kettle of fish.

Anyway, seems entirely unlikely in the case of the Afghani guy.

[Silent Type]

19. Technically you win. To me incels are just insecure/pitiful people who will kill because of it. He qualifies, IMO,

as do most of these pissants who shoot people.

[TommyT139]

20. Good to know

...given the war and all.

Enjoy the turkey.

[stopdiggin]

27. then maybe drop the 'incel' language ?

If you are using it incorrectly - or not sure what it means .. ?

[Silent Type]

33. I think it applies, but thanks for suggestion.

[stopdiggin]

35. And I can insist that aardvarks are really monkeys (only really well disguised)

But - that doesn't make it so. While just serving to confuse people - and make anything else I might to say - less tenable?

Nonetheless - - And good day to you as well.

[NickB79]

25. He was in a romantic relationship at the time of the shooting

Which is the opposite of an incel 🤷

[bornsunny]

28. With a furry?

[B.See]

8. Frankly, I have

my own thoughts re Trump being shot at during one of his hate fests, and the Kirk shooting, though none yet about today's events.

BUT, I put nothing past them. NOTHING.

[EdmondDantes_]

9. The Kirk killer wasn't right wing from the available evidence

His family was, but if his issue was pro lgbtq+ rights that's not a right wing position.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

26. He was pro LGBT rights? Is there any evidence of that?

He was apparently in a relationship with a trans girl but that doesn’t make him an LGBT advocate.

I’m still convinced he’s a Nick Fuentes ( also likely into fem/cat boys) groyper, gamer and borderline INCEL

He probably doesn’t even consider himself part of the LGBT community

[intheflow]

34. The only info we have is from Kash Patel.

No one has seen or heard of this alleged trans friend/lover, no agency has talked with them except for the FBI. I personally think he was a straight-up rightwing nut job and this story was created to cast shade on anyone LGBTQ+ just to have a “leftist” boogeyman to blame.

Also, some rightwing folks *are* okay with LGBTQ+ folks. At least white ones. Especially younger rwingers who have basically grown up under Ogberfell. About 40% of Republicans support gay rights, so it doesn’t mean this guy was on the left politically.

[viva la]

10. So Candace Owens is now in a pitched battle with the widow--

Making very strong nasty suggestions.... pretty much saying she's not really grieving but grifting.

I love rightwing nutcase cannibalism.

[walkingman]

11. Truth is always the strongest argument - until it is spoken as a lie and presented as truth.

[moreland01]

13. Any time there's an event

the spin machines are spun up to make sure the Dems will be blamed. That's been the case since the dawn of politics. Dems just aren't as good at lying as the repubes, but we do it too.

[Tribetime]

14. I don't put anything past trump

He will try to do anything to distract from epstein
It's his fault anyway.They should never have been there

[sellitman]

16. I heard the gunman was on George Soros's paycheck system

In 10..9..8..7..

[BonnieJW]

18. I just read on Yahoo news

And on MSNOW he's an Afghan national who entered the country in 2021 and was living in Washington

[Tree Lady]

31. I just read he was granted asylum

Last April so Trumps people.

[progressoid]

24. It's almost as if the media is more interested in sensationalism and profits than

accurate reporting.

[Norrrm]

29. Trump/ICE talks about going after the dangerous 'illegals' but they concentrate more on children and domestic workers.

It is much, much safer to arrest children than armed MS13.

[KS Toronado]

30. Time we retired the term......... Antifa

And started saying "Anti-Fascist" or "Anti-Nazi"

[James48]

32. Of course! A Muslim Immigrant!!

An Afghani immigrant, granted asylum.

That’s the story now.

From the news:

“
BELLINGHAM, Wash. — Federal sources tell KOMO News that the suspect who allegedly shot two National Guard soldiers on Wednesday afternoon had a connection to Bellingham in Washington state.

The suspect in the shooting has been identified by law enforcement as 29-year-old Rahmanullah Lakanwal, according to multiple law enforcement sources familiar with the investigation.

Lakanwal is believed to be from Afghanistan and came to the United States in 2021 under the Biden administration, the sources said. Lakanwal applied for asylum in 2024 and was granted asylum in April 2025, under the Trump administration, according to three law enforcement sources.