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no_hypocrisy

(53,954 posts)
Thu Nov 27, 2025, 05:20 AM Nov 27

Trump reminds me of my narcissistic father.

Almost reflex to punish me for opposing him for any and all reasons, starting when I was a teen.

Even when he said something wrong and I'd counter with correct facts, I was in the crosshairs.

He saw me as being arbitrarily defiant and challenging his authority. And it was a warning to my siblings and to my mother not to try it.

I believe he saw me in terms of a psychological stance called ODD, Oppositional Defiant Disorder. While I can't prove it, I'm certain that my father was thinking of ways to "put me away" for my persistent challenging him.

Trump is like this. Say or do anything that doesn't agree with him, BOOM! You'll be investigated, indicted, tried, convicted, and put in prison, maybe "hung".

While this doesn't exactly trigger PTSD in me, it isn't pleasant to recall.

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2naSalit

(99,322 posts)
1. He's eyeball deep into...
Thu Nov 27, 2025, 05:50 AM
Nov 27

What I call the 'Red Queen Stage' where any and all who even seem contrary to his royal whims face the demand of... "Off with their heads!" As the Red Queen in Through the Looking Glass.

He must be sated in every desire immediately or else.


Still waiting to see him gone by whatever route succeeds.

KS Toronado

(22,456 posts)
8. Believe his failing health will do him in
Thu Nov 27, 2025, 09:01 AM
Nov 27

Can't make up my mind if I want him gone soon or at the end of his term. If soon, we'd have JD Vance
implementing project 2025 rather fast and how to deal with that.

If he lives to finish his term out, he'll have made a majority of Rs questioning why they vote R.

Scrivener7

(57,989 posts)
3. I'm so sorry. Your father and my mother sound like peas in a pod.
Thu Nov 27, 2025, 07:24 AM
Nov 27

And yes, I see so many parallels. And the dementia just exacerbates it.

Karma13612

(4,897 posts)
4. There is a narcissist in my life as well-
Thu Nov 27, 2025, 07:41 AM
Nov 27

I manage them as best I can.

I know EXACTLY what you are talking about. And I empathize with you 1000%.

I can’t say more as we both visit these political forums and my handle is very distinctive.

Bettie

(19,177 posts)
5. His voice does it to me
Thu Nov 27, 2025, 08:03 AM
Nov 27

and brings actual flashbacks to my own father who was a sexual abuser and a narcissist.

The wheedling tone of his voice, the sing-song threats, the anger over anything that doesn't fit his world view, the belief that the entire world exists only for him....it's all so horribly familiar.

It does tell me that it was a good thing that my own father had no power or money, because he would have been a worse monster than he was.

NNadir

(37,036 posts)
6. That's tough. My father was pretty right wing, but deep down, I think he rather enjoyed that I was on the left.
Thu Nov 27, 2025, 08:07 AM
Nov 27

We'd have terrible political fights, make up, and laugh.

I miss him greatly.

He stood by me, and I by him, as my mother died, which happened exactly 50 years ago yesterday.

I loved him very much.

COL Mustard

(7,883 posts)
7. A lot of people dealt with dads like that
Thu Nov 27, 2025, 08:19 AM
Nov 27

Unfortunately there are/were a lot of fathers like that. It must’ve been something in the water.

NJCher

(42,157 posts)
9. Appropriate Initialism
Thu Nov 27, 2025, 09:08 AM
Nov 27
Trump is like this. Say or do anything that doesn't agree with him, BOOM! You'll be investigated, indicted, tried, convicted, and put in prison, maybe "hung".

Think about the world view you would have if you thought like this.

In the farthest stretches of my imagination, I can’t get there.

Wednesdays

(21,492 posts)
10. If I watched Fox News for 1000 hours, I might get there.
Thu Nov 27, 2025, 09:25 AM
Nov 27

But that ain't gonna happen. I can't get myself to watch Fox News for 2 minutes, let alone 1000 hours.

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