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malaise

(297,648 posts)
Fri May 8, 2026, 01:45 PM 21 hrs ago

Does it scare you to hear these clowns redefine the simple meaning of words

as if it becomes not what it means but what they say it means.
It’s unbearable.

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Does it scare you to hear these clowns redefine the simple meaning of words (Original Post) malaise 21 hrs ago OP
It alarms me how easy they get away with it. Solly Mack 21 hrs ago #1
This! mcar 20 hrs ago #3
"Insurrection." Kid Berwyn 21 hrs ago #2
Agreed. Justice matters. 20 hrs ago #4
George Orwell was a prophet The Blue Flower 20 hrs ago #5
My daughters who graduated high school in 1989 and 1999, both in cksmithy 18 hrs ago #18
Damn! GB_RN 18 hrs ago #24
I read The Scarlet Letter, 1984, Dickens, Lord of the Flies, Shakespeare and so much more during high school. cksmithy 17 hrs ago #27
What is making me crazy - and I knew it would happen mcar 20 hrs ago #6
The Fox News idiot in charge of transportation was lying yesterday. Initech 19 hrs ago #10
And others bragging about credit card debt increasing mcar 19 hrs ago #11
They are BigMin28 19 hrs ago #12
Agree malaise 14 hrs ago #34
What scares me are the millions of incredibly ignorant and credulous Americans who believe their BS. sop 20 hrs ago #7
WOW! i've said this so many times!! bluestarone 11 hrs ago #36
Word meanings Wicked Blue 20 hrs ago #8
Oh, yeah. It makes communication impossible. Like living in Babylon. Baitball Blogger 20 hrs ago #9
I wonder how many died in Trump's "love tap"? Swede 19 hrs ago #13
They've been doing since 2016 relayerbob 19 hrs ago #14
Definition of terms is half the battle in argument. rustbeltvoice 19 hrs ago #15
They want it all back. A return to at least 1890. Fuck 'em. And yes, it's Orwellian with the terminology projection. nt Evolve Dammit 19 hrs ago #16
This will be appealed BeneteauBum 18 hrs ago #17
Aren't laws.... SergeStorms 18 hrs ago #20
Obviously BeneteauBum 17 hrs ago #25
Like our Constitution. SergeStorms 17 hrs ago #26
Hi SS BeneteauBum 16 hrs ago #32
Not that they make the attempt, but that it prospers. malthaussen 18 hrs ago #19
Everything this maladministration does scares me... spanone 18 hrs ago #21
And that is malaise 18 hrs ago #22
Republicans have been doing that since as long as I can remember. paleotn 18 hrs ago #23
Words are only symbols, not the thing. multigraincracker 17 hrs ago #28
yup Skittles 17 hrs ago #29
It is what they've always done, particularly B.See 16 hrs ago #30
Humpty Dumpty working for the fascists, as usual 0rganism 16 hrs ago #31
The truth malaise 14 hrs ago #33
Yes, with a but. mr715 13 hrs ago #35

Kid Berwyn

(24,956 posts)
2. "Insurrection."
Fri May 8, 2026, 01:49 PM
21 hrs ago

Used to mean an armed mob intent on overthrowing the government. Now adds, "...except when Trump does it, then it's not."

Justice matters.

(10,016 posts)
4. Agreed.
Fri May 8, 2026, 01:52 PM
20 hrs ago

No matter how stoopid they shamelessly humiliate themselves, they think millions will believe the hubris they spew is true, and they are not wrong with that (like Goebbels thought) and it's really scary.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221227271

cksmithy

(513 posts)
18. My daughters who graduated high school in 1989 and 1999, both in
Fri May 8, 2026, 04:09 PM
18 hrs ago

honor classes/advanced classes, 1984 was not taught in their English classes. My youngest daughter read it after the 2016 election and was stunned by its accuracy of our time. She was actually mad she was never exposed to it, she also has a BA from UCSB. She and our son in law are very progressive. Our oldest daughter, we do not talk politics.

GB_RN

(3,584 posts)
24. Damn!
Fri May 8, 2026, 04:44 PM
18 hrs ago

I graduated from HS in 1990, honors/AP English. My senior year English teacher had us read “1984”and “Brave New World” - among quite a few other books. Had to read “Animal Farm” in English at some point earlier in school.

Sidebar: Also had to read Upton Sinclair’s “The Jungle” in US history class. If you haven’t read that, you absolutely NEED to do so. Given what Cantaloupe Caligula the Corpulent (and Vought) is doing to government agencies, including the FDA, I really cannot emphasize it enough.

“The Jungle” was the impetus behind the Meat Inspection Act and the Pure Food and Drug Act of 1906 and set the foundation for the FDA (created by the Food, Drug & Cosmetics Act of 1936). Ironically, a Roosevelt was responsible for each of those laws.

Because there is no such thing as corporate social responsibility without it being forced upon them, no corporation is going to do the right thing if it costs money - or means less profit. Corporate America has shown time and time again that shareholders or the owner’s profit margins take precedence over the people who actually make the money for the company. This is why government regulations, regulators and inspections are so important.

cksmithy

(513 posts)
27. I read The Scarlet Letter, 1984, Dickens, Lord of the Flies, Shakespeare and so much more during high school.
Fri May 8, 2026, 05:10 PM
17 hrs ago

But I grew up in Monterey County, CA, my poor daughters grew up in the CA Central Valley. Which is so conservative, it is disgusting.
My history classes made it to the early 1900's, muck rakers, and child labor laws. I don't think my daughters ever went beyond the civil war in high school.

Also, I live in an over hundred years old house and about 25 years ago, we would go on house tours for fun, the tours were always to raise money for charities. Once at a grand old house, we got stopped on an upstairs landing before we could continue, and there where 3 photos of people in their kkk costumes from the 1960's. I laughed, pointed them out to my husband, "oh, god" he said. We moved on, I turned to look back and other people were looking and shaking their heads at the pictures.

I graduated in 1969. It was a very different time. There was still corporal punishment, the threat of juvenile hall and expulsion. Every student behaved, no talking back, complete obedience. The Vietnam was was was going strong, teachers (on the west coast at least) were motivated to give you a good education..

mcar

(46,285 posts)
6. What is making me crazy - and I knew it would happen
Fri May 8, 2026, 02:01 PM
20 hrs ago

is that they'd just lie about reality vis a vis the war. Now telling us that gas prices are coming down, the war is over, etc.

And MSM is reporting this shite.

Folks, our problem is not just Trump and Republicans - it's a complicit media.

Initech

(109,159 posts)
10. The Fox News idiot in charge of transportation was lying yesterday.
Fri May 8, 2026, 02:59 PM
19 hrs ago

Saying high gas prices are good for the economy. No they are not.

BigMin28

(1,872 posts)
12. They are
Fri May 8, 2026, 03:09 PM
19 hrs ago

The mouthpiece for the GOP. Like them, most of the media isn't pretending with the niceties any longer.

sop

(19,175 posts)
7. What scares me are the millions of incredibly ignorant and credulous Americans who believe their BS.
Fri May 8, 2026, 02:05 PM
20 hrs ago

Wicked Blue

(9,004 posts)
8. Word meanings
Fri May 8, 2026, 02:14 PM
20 hrs ago

“When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

’The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’

’The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.”

― Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking Glass

relayerbob

(7,448 posts)
14. They've been doing since 2016
Fri May 8, 2026, 03:18 PM
19 hrs ago

It's classic 1984 crap - and 1984 was highlighting the practice, it didn't invent the idea.

Evolve Dammit

(21,811 posts)
16. They want it all back. A return to at least 1890. Fuck 'em. And yes, it's Orwellian with the terminology projection. nt
Fri May 8, 2026, 03:49 PM
19 hrs ago

BeneteauBum

(729 posts)
17. This will be appealed
Fri May 8, 2026, 03:57 PM
18 hrs ago

Interpretation of vocabulary is not interpretation of the law.

Peace ☮️

BeneteauBum

(729 posts)
25. Obviously
Fri May 8, 2026, 04:52 PM
17 hrs ago

However, putting a biased slant on semantics should be difficult if the law is written without ambiguity. Creating clear, straightforward laws is incumbent on our elected officials. Otherwise, there is chaos.

Peace ☮️

SergeStorms

(20,783 posts)
26. Like our Constitution.
Fri May 8, 2026, 04:58 PM
17 hrs ago

The rabid-right has been parsing that document to death. I understand what you mean, BeneteauBum, but do they?

BeneteauBum

(729 posts)
32. Hi SS
Fri May 8, 2026, 06:09 PM
16 hrs ago

There will always be a discontented faction that tries to work around the obvious. I look at our current administration that continues to say ‘Don’t believe what you see, believe what we say’. That works for so many morons.

I’m active in my community and I enjoy debating people who have no basis for their arguments. They really hate being confronted with reality. I just hope that some of these people realize that they are just parroting this administrations propaganda. I would never BS anyone to try to convince them of a point.

Things will change!

Peace ☮️

malthaussen

(18,615 posts)
19. Not that they make the attempt, but that it prospers.
Fri May 8, 2026, 04:24 PM
18 hrs ago

The abysmal stupidity/complicity of those whom should be society's watchdogs in this matter depresses me.

-- Mal

paleotn

(22,601 posts)
23. Republicans have been doing that since as long as I can remember.
Fri May 8, 2026, 04:34 PM
18 hrs ago

And when you tell them it's kind of Orwellian. You know, from his book 1984, they ask.... "Huh? Who's that? Never heard of him or his book." They've never heard of a lot of things.

B.See

(8,755 posts)
30. It is what they've always done, particularly
Fri May 8, 2026, 05:58 PM
16 hrs ago

with their penchant for naming things for the opposite of what they truly are/do, as I've mentioned numerous times.

Further evidence of how deceitfully evil and malignant they are. But no, it doesn't scare me. Nor am I 'chilled.'

Don't get scared. Get MAD.
Vote, and GET EVEN.

mr715

(4,054 posts)
35. Yes, with a but.
Fri May 8, 2026, 09:15 PM
13 hrs ago

As a teenager I remember a very prominent Democrat dissemble on a particularly important verb in the English language.

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