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CivicGrief

(288 posts)
Sat May 9, 2026, 11:28 AM 4 hrs ago

I hope people now realize that not voting

is not protest, it is surrender. Same goes for voting for long (no) shot third party candidates, who often are wolves in sheep’s attire.

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I hope people now realize that not voting (Original Post) CivicGrief 4 hrs ago OP
Kamala Harris won the election gab13by13 4 hrs ago #1
I hope candidates realize they must attract voters n/t leftstreet 4 hrs ago #2
Biden turned out to be more progressive than CivicGrief 4 hrs ago #3
And I hope voters realize that you're never going to agree with someone 100% of the time. W_HAMILTON 1 hr ago #6
Why stir that up? Cirsium 2 hrs ago #4
People have different ideas about what voting means to them, that's it. WhiskeyGrinder 2 hrs ago #5

CivicGrief

(288 posts)
3. Biden turned out to be more progressive than
Sat May 9, 2026, 12:08 PM
4 hrs ago

any president for decades. His age and Gaza killed his re-election chances. Harris was a great candidate and should have won by a landslide. If you wait for the perfect politician, you end up with the worst. I don’t like it, but it’s reality.

W_HAMILTON

(10,427 posts)
6. And I hope voters realize that you're never going to agree with someone 100% of the time.
Sat May 9, 2026, 02:59 PM
1 hr ago

If you do, you're no different than a brainwashed MAGA cultist.

Having said that, if someone claims to be on the left, there are virtually no issues where Republicans are to the left of Democrats.

"Dont judge me against the Almighty, judge me against the alternative."

Not voting for the Democrat doesn't get you your dream candidate -- it gets you a Republican. And if someone didn't do all they could to prevent a Republican from being elected -- ESPECIALLY Trump and his MAGA Republicans -- you are no ally to those of us ACTUALLY on the left.

Cirsium

(4,082 posts)
4. Why stir that up?
Sat May 9, 2026, 01:18 PM
2 hrs ago

Votes are not property. Political parties are not owed loyalty automatically. Someone becomes part of the Democratic coalition only when they actually choose to support Democratic party candidates. If they withhold support, then the relevant question is not “how dare they leave?”
but rather “why did the party fail to persuade or retain them?” That shifts responsibility from voters to institutions and leadership.

There's probably some truth in the criticism of non-voters and third party voters, but it's always aimed at the progressive wing of the party. If somebody doesn't vote for Democratic party candidates, they aren't a Democrat. They aren't a vote that we own or can can depend upon. So I think this talk about blaming third party candidates and non-voters is just a lazy excuse to avoid facing shortcomings and failures by the party leadership.

Though “you must vote blue no matter what” argument is frequently directed toward the progressive left, centrist defections, disengaged moderates, or conservative Democrats are often discussed in softer strategic language.

If a party repeatedly depends on fear-based or anti-opponent voting rather than affirmative enthusiasm, it eventually creates a brittle coalition. People may vote tactically for a while, but resentment accumulates if they feel perpetually blamed rather than politically represented.

It can feel easier to scold voters than to examine why enthusiasm, trust, or identification with the party may be weakening in the first place. The rhetoric about third-party voters can function as a displacement mechanism. Instead of confronting weak messaging, voter suppression or strategic mistakes, anger gets redirected toward marginal voters with little structural power.

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