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Baitball Blogger

(52,712 posts)
Sat May 16, 2026, 08:29 AM 16 hrs ago

Gee, all that failure in China. Two rows of men staring at each other and

nothing got done. Maybe there was too much testosterone in the room? Too much dick measuring? Maybe they would have done better had they selected a woman with experience in diplomacy to come help break the ice?

Anyway you look at it, Trump's meritocracy method was a mess.

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underpants

(197,146 posts)
1. As I heard on NPR, Trump IS their China desk
Sat May 16, 2026, 08:54 AM
16 hrs ago

Because he knows eeeeeeverything.

I saw this summary/analysis here yesterday

But, in reality, Trump has left with zero tangible progress or diplomatic achievements. He failed to stand up to China on Taiwan or rare earth minerals, sold out American farmers, and secured only one deal, which fell short of expectations and tanked Boeing’s stock price.

paleotn

(22,684 posts)
2. Failure for the US. Not for China.
Sat May 16, 2026, 09:15 AM
16 hrs ago

The internal propaganda for Xi was more than worth it. "Look at the stupid Americans! Not so scary, eh?" Censors actually let Chinese online comments run wild. That doesn't usually happen. Really ever.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-china-viral-posts-online_n_6a058f12e4b0def65bfc015c?d_id=11920384&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=threads&utm_campaign=us_main

Roll out the red carpet and treat him like he's a legitimate world leader, i.e., an equal, and Trump will do anything for you. A kibosh on China tariffs at least for a while. But nothing on the Chinese side was formally agreed to, so the US gets nada. Plus, the subtle insults were priceless and have foreign governments the world over chuckling at the orange moron and the once proud superpower stupid and soft enough to elect him. The US is now a laughing stock globally and China's prestige as an alternative grows.

So no, it wasn't a failure. It just depends on who's perspective you're looking from.

sop

(19,259 posts)
9. Even Steven Cheung went to China with Trump, and attended the high-level meetings with Chinese President Xi.
Sat May 16, 2026, 10:51 AM
14 hrs ago

Cheung's past work with WWE/UFC doesn't exactly qualify him as a diplomat, and he doesn't even speak Mandarin, despite his parents being Chinese immigrants, but he's Trump's vitriolic media attack dog.

Renew Deal

(85,345 posts)
5. Trump is incapable of making a deal
Sat May 16, 2026, 10:34 AM
14 hrs ago

He sees any compromise as weakness so he is incapable of getting anything done. This is especially obvious with the Iran situation where people now know his threats are toothless.

Swede

(40,041 posts)
8. Boeing stock dropped after Trump said he made a deal and "Sold a lot of big ones."
Sat May 16, 2026, 10:50 AM
14 hrs ago

I think he meant lies, not aircraft.

Buddyzbuddy

(2,882 posts)
12. Since the Felon's 2nd term began it has not been about the Nation's business.
Sat May 16, 2026, 12:37 PM
12 hrs ago

It's about what he can do for him. What we see as failure is what we're meant to see.
The titans of industry were present, introductions were made courtesy of American taxpayers. Business and relationships have been strained in the recent past. But I bet those waters are calmer now. And like most sales people, because that's what the Felon is, they get a commission for doing their job.

Pay more attention to what you don't see. Note: that was a very long way to travel for such a short visit. Nothing of diplomatic note occurred. So what did take place. And coincidentally, Putin will be visiting shortly.
Much to ponder. But, failed trip? I doubt it.

Baitball Blogger

(52,712 posts)
13. So true. A game of three dimensional chess is taking place and most of it is being
Sat May 16, 2026, 12:49 PM
12 hrs ago

played when Trump isn't even in the room.

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