Voting is not going to get us out of this

[clevergrrrl]

Trump is not leaving office on his own accord. And even if he does. The rot infests the US Supreme Court, The US Congress and the power elite.

[RandySF]

1. Not voting is self sabotage.

[LearnedHand]

20. I don't think that was the OP's point

If I can put words in their mouth, voting hard enough won’t fix the endemic sicknesses. Dems will have to root out deep corruption and reinvent federal governance. If they try to “get back to normal” after the elections, we’re well and truly fucked.

[JustAnotherGen]

2. How far are you

Willing to go? That's what everyone should be asking themselves right now.

[Kid Berwyn]

3. We need forced retirement.

“A Riot Is An Ugly Thing... And, I Think, That It Is Just About Time We Had One."



“We can do this the easy way or the hard way.”

[yellow dahlia]

9. Time to turn to The Declaration of Independence.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That, whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.

/SNIP

But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.

[Dave says]

4. I think you're right

At best, we'll have a lot of work ahead for us.

[yankee87]

5. Pre Civil War days

I agree, just voting isn’t going to get out of this. Look at Virginia, Colorado where we just gave up. In Ohio, where the same issue as Virginia with voting districts and republicans said screw the courts. Same with the orange blob.
Also, the leadership of of our party aren’t supporting Platner nor Mamdani.
We need to fight every single thing all the time.
We need a FDR, not milquetoast leaders.

[Bettie]

6. Voting is definitely part of the solution, but it may not

be all of it.

What the rest of the solution is? I am not sure, but we'll need to figure it out soon.

[dweller]

7. Is always about choices

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[68er]

8. Not by itself, no. We're also going to have get used to (intentionally) buying *way less shit*

...certainly way less new shit, for all kinds of environmental, collapse-hedging, and defunding-the-oligarchs reasons...

Though I cheerfully (?) acknowledge that's not the entirety of the solution either, but simply another aspect of it.

[LearnedHand]

21. Wha? Ya lost me.

[Intractable]

10. He wants everyone to think he'll have a third term, so he doesn't seem like a lame duck in his second term.

Between the law and his health, he's not getting a third term.

[BlueTsunami2018]

11. Nope. This whole system needs to go.

Unfortunately, the ruling class has an iron grip on the mentality of much of the working class. So much so that the workers won’t even defend themselves and worse, actively want to be ruled by these hoarders and parasites under the ridiculous assumption that they too will one day ascend to that class.

Obviously, we have to keep voting because that’s the system we live under but once the material conditions break down enough, and they will, the People will do what has to be done. Because there will be no other choice. This system of infinite economic growth simply cannot be sustained.

[GenThePerservering]

16. I wished more people realised this:

"workers won’t even defend themselves and worse, actively want to be ruled by these hoarders and parasites under the ridiculous assumption that they too will one day ascend to that class."

They think that by worshiping the Epstein class they will be able to associate with Epstein class, be accepted by the Epstein class, and somehow be one of them.

Meanwhile, the Epstein class is never going to deign to have anything to do with most magats. It's like those old, strange women at magat rallies who dress provocatively with signs saying "boner garage" and an arrow pointing to their vagina. No, girl - they don't love you.

[doc03]

12. By 2028 Republicans will control all MSM, TV and print it is going

to a battle to win the presidency again.

[anciano]

13. Just a random thought.....

I believe it's possible that the information overload in this modern digital age is causing more and more people to become fatigued with politics and more disconnected from the collective decision making process, resulting in them being more willing to simply let others make decisions for them.

[bluestarone]

14. These MONSTERS, and i mean MONSTERS will be there for two more years.

Even if we win BOTH houses, it's gonna be a God Dam long two years. They will continue to use courts to their advantage. I just wonder what they are gonna do to disrupt our MIDTERMS. I KNOW they will do something for sure. Be ready for anything in November, or October.

[Melon]

15. We need to vote. That is absolutely how this gets fixed.

That….is America. We don’t like this today so we vote. Then we are at the alter and can make policy. That’s the game. Storming the capital or any other bs is a pipe dream. We need to motivate people to vote and enact change, and we need a majority to do that.

[Trueblue Texan]

17. Make no mistake...

Voting as a single measure may not get us out of this mess, but if we don't vote, we have no hope. Voting is the most fundamental thing we must do. While it may seem an oversimplified remedy to taking our democracy back, it's key to righting this ship. If we can't get that done, we are sunk, for certain.

[Kaleva]

18. Climate change will devastate the planet regardless of how we vote

[Initech]

19. The rot is Fox News / News Corporation influence.

That fucking network has usurped WAY too much power. No network should have this much control over an administration the way that Fox News does. Fox News is the 800 pound gorilla in the room.

Democrats should devise a new media strategy for dealing with the cable news brainrot onslaught.

[Kaleva]

22. Less then 10% of the adult population watches cable news

[Initech]

23. But Fox News is fucking everywhere.

They're in doctors offices, dental offices, hospitals, military bases, restaurants, bars, gyms, I could go on and on. And inexplicably like every other post in my feeds are of the asshole or one of his goons on Fox saying something stupider than the last thing they said. So if it's that small of a percentage that watches cable news, why does one channel dominate the discussion?

[GenThePerservering]

24. Just as a side note, I'm delighted to say that our local gym

had Fucks News on one of their bank of screens. It didn't last long lol (wish they'd get rid of all of those stupid screens - we're there to work out, not watch TV).

[GenThePerservering]

25. A bigger issue than the dying media is AI

and its social and environmental costs. It's directly the tools of the oligarchy. We're the product.