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mr715

(4,493 posts)
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 11:05 PM Thursday

I support Graham Platner.

Yesterday and today I found myself somewhat shaken and disappointed, but I remain committed to a Democratic Senate in 2027 and the defeat of Susan Collins.

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I support Graham Platner. (Original Post) mr715 Thursday OP
Totally Miami Blue Thursday #1
The establishment did the exact same thing to Mamdani orangecrush Thursday #2
Oh Mamdani, mayor of my heart. mr715 Thursday #3
I saw that Schumer had already met with him to offer support Nixie Thursday #7
Huh? SocialDemocrat61 Thursday #8
Mahalo for this, SocialDemocrat. Cha Yesterday #15
Thanks SocialDemocrat61 23 hrs ago #18
They need to get their facts straight. Cha 23 hrs ago #22
Nearly all NY Democrats supported Zohran Mamdani Quiet Em 11 hrs ago #72
Agreed Pototan 23 hrs ago #19
Mahalo, Pototan, you too! Cha 23 hrs ago #23
Your links actually support the claim establishment Democrats didn't support Mamdani. AloeVera 16 hrs ago #33
You're free to believe that SocialDemocrat61 16 hrs ago #34
I go by facts, not "belief". AloeVera 16 hrs ago #35
Good because the facts are SocialDemocrat61 15 hrs ago #48
Lol! Scrivener7 16 hrs ago #36
I don't live in Maine SocialDemocrat61 15 hrs ago #46
I don't live in Maine either, but as I say, I need Democrats to win as many seats as possible so Democrats can gain Scrivener7 14 hrs ago #50
I hope all democrats win in November SocialDemocrat61 14 hrs ago #52
You go with that. Scrivener7 14 hrs ago #53
Thanks I will SocialDemocrat61 14 hrs ago #54
Depends on who you're callingi "the Establisment" Cha Thursday #10
This isn't even a comparison. Mamdani is Muslim and that is what they held against him?? Pisces 22 hrs ago #27
He campaigned with Hasan Piker! GASP! mr715 11 hrs ago #69
"the establishment" ... Oh good grief. 🙄🤣 QueerDuck 15 hrs ago #42
The "establishment" is exactly the word. Bluetus 11 hrs ago #76
Truth orangecrush 11 hrs ago #77
Interesting way of thinking. mr715 10 hrs ago #80
Rebuilding our failing healthcare system is in Platner's platform. Emile Thursday #4
That broken health insurance system JustAnotherGen 17 hrs ago #31
Unfortunately, their lobbying groups have a TON of money to spread around Bettie 16 hrs ago #37
And now they've basically destroyed the Voting Rights Act Just_Vote_Dem 15 hrs ago #40
What makes you think he can beat Collins Boo1 Thursday #5
Anti-incumbent sentiment mr715 Thursday #6
How many millions of negative ads Big Blue Marble Thursday #9
Or not. mr715 Thursday #13
You will see a firestorm of ads Big Blue Marble 23 hrs ago #21
Repubs and aipac are ready to spend over $200million against our senate candidates questionseverything 20 hrs ago #28
As opposed to what? A candidate no one cares about? Happy Hoosier 15 hrs ago #43
Do you think Mills or Costello can beat Collins? Bettie 16 hrs ago #38
No. mainer 15 hrs ago #39
I have known some toxic men in my life Bettie 15 hrs ago #45
No they don't Boo1 14 hrs ago #49
You have a link to the poll that shows Emile 14 hrs ago #51
A March Emerson poll had both Platner and Mills over Collins Quiet Em 14 hrs ago #57
Yes, I researched that after I asked for a link. Out of 7 different Emile 14 hrs ago #58
And, sorry for the pedantry, but a lead of +1 or +3 isn't a lead mr715 12 hrs ago #63
Statistically? mr715 10 hrs ago #81
MoE are two tailed Boo1 10 hrs ago #82
Isn't Platner up by 6-8%? mr715 10 hrs ago #85
I support Graham Platner. None of us has lived perfect lives. I want Collins OUT!! NNguyenMD Thursday #11
These are exactly the rationale (rationalizations) Big Blue Marble Thursday #12
No more Alex Prettis or Renee Goods. mr715 Yesterday #14
Then were do you draw the line.. Big Blue Marble 23 hrs ago #16
He is teflon and will win. mr715 23 hrs ago #17
Fuck character. If he votes Democratic, that's what matter NoRethugFriends 22 hrs ago #26
You are correct PhilosopherKing 17 hrs ago #32
Your rationale sounds a lot like the people who stayed home or refused standingtall 20 hrs ago #30
We can't do 2) without 1) Happy Hoosier 15 hrs ago #44
yeah Skittles 23 hrs ago #20
I will be very glad when Tuesday is over Sympthsical 22 hrs ago #24
The sole purpose of Primaries appears to be dividing the party... Violet_Crumble 20 hrs ago #29
I'm not at all in favor of letting the elites of what many think is a calcified, out of touch political establishment Midwestern Democrat 12 hrs ago #61
Screw that crap, we need regular people deciding about candidates not party insiders questionseverything 12 hrs ago #68
Primaries are good. mr715 9 hrs ago #87
Coincident? SlimPetey 22 hrs ago #25
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote 3 hrs ago #88
Platner is flawed. Happy Hoosier 15 hrs ago #41
I'm In Pennsylvania. ColoringFool 15 hrs ago #47
I'm in Pa. also gab13by13 14 hrs ago #56
Circular Firing... ZDU 14 hrs ago #55
Do we have a choice? awesomerwb1 13 hrs ago #59
I have a solid hope that the voters in Maine will do the right thing MineralMan 13 hrs ago #60
I don't think you realize how badly this is going to go. Llewlladdwr 12 hrs ago #62
Really. We KNOW this. Ok. Nanjeanne 12 hrs ago #64
Well, he has admitted to it himself... Llewlladdwr 11 hrs ago #70
None of the other candidates have generated enough interest to keep the lights on questionseverything 12 hrs ago #65
This. mr715 12 hrs ago #67
How do we know this isn't GOP operatives? mr715 12 hrs ago #66
But it's not just the sex crap... Llewlladdwr 11 hrs ago #71
Does the misogynistic, racist, homophobic comments... mr715 10 hrs ago #78
Context matters in a general election Soul_of_Wit 10 hrs ago #79
Yup, after next week's Primary, God knows what may come out obamanut2012 11 hrs ago #73
It certainly was fortunate that information about Swalwell came out before the primary. LisaL 11 hrs ago #74
We were very lucky that blogger blew it up obamanut2012 10 hrs ago #83
Oh, I'm sure they have some people tucked away ready to serve up some nonsense Just_Vote_Dem 10 hrs ago #86
Hope the polls translate into Votes Aepps22 11 hrs ago #75
The choice? A flawed candidate who will vote to preserve women's rights mainer 10 hrs ago #84

orangecrush

(31,484 posts)
2. The establishment did the exact same thing to Mamdani
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 11:09 PM
Thursday

.That didn't turn out well for them

Neither will this.

mr715

(4,493 posts)
3. Oh Mamdani, mayor of my heart.
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 11:12 PM
Thursday

The man brought enough good energy to empower the Knicks to win.

He's soooo dreamy.


Edit -- He went to my HS, Bronx Science. He's about 5-6 years my junior. He started the Bronx Science cricket club. Most problematic thing he ever did.

Nixie

(18,177 posts)
7. I saw that Schumer had already met with him to offer support
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 11:31 PM
Thursday

as is his role.

Mamdani didn’t have these types of episodes to explain, which are from Platner’s own past — his own doing. Platner’s own wife brought up the sexting. But I realize it’s red meat to certain types to grouse over the “establishment.”

Cha

(321,076 posts)
15. Mahalo for this, SocialDemocrat.
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 12:03 AM
Yesterday

That tired ol word "establishment" gets thrown around a lot.

I take it is supposed to be an insult... just a buzzword that makes me see .

Nothing wrong with working hard and being established.

All Dems need to be on Board to win the Midterms.. This is NOT about Division and trashing Dems.

It's about Unity.

Cha

(321,076 posts)
22. They need to get their facts straight.
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 01:14 AM
23 hrs ago

And, I'm tired of anyone texting that Dems aren't fighting for us.

Pressuminably to bulld themselves UP.

It's about the MIDTERMS. Get a freaking clue.



Quiet Em

(3,132 posts)
72. Nearly all NY Democrats supported Zohran Mamdani
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 12:28 PM
11 hrs ago

AOC and Tish James played a big role in helping to coalesce support.

And Mamdani himself was/is an excellent candidate with a great message and great character.

We need to find more Mamdani's and more AOC's, because these two know how to build coalitions, sell the message and excite the voters.

AloeVera

(4,502 posts)
33. Your links actually support the claim establishment Democrats didn't support Mamdani.
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 07:54 AM
16 hrs ago

National Democrats, leadership and high-profile Democrats were extremely slow to support him. Some coming out just mere days or weeks before the election, some not at all.

From your article, dated a mere weeks before the election:

The vocal support [from the DNC chair] comes as other national Democrats, including New York Sen. Chuck Schumer, the Senate Minority Leader and New York Rep. Hakeem Jeffries, the House Minority Leader, have so far declined to endorse Mamdani.


In September, months after Mamdani advanced to the November general election in a June primary, New York Democratic Gov. Kathy Hochul endorsed him.

In a New York Times op-ed, Hochul noted that while she and Mamdani have "had our disagreements," they also share similar goals, like making New York City more affordable for residents.

Former Vice President Kamala Harris, who was the Democratic party's presidential nominee in last year's presidential election, also offered a tepid endorsement of Mamdani last month, telling MSNBC's Rachel Maddow that, "Look, as far as I’m concerned, he’s the Democratic nominee and he should be supported."


As for the list of endorsements you linked to, 90% are state-level officials and reps. The remaining 10 include Sanders, Warren, AOC, Jayapal, Ryan, Vaelasquez, Nadler, Robert Reich and to round it off FORMER Rep. Jamaal Bowman.

So you were saying?

SocialDemocrat61

(8,142 posts)
48. Good because the facts are
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 09:01 AM
15 hrs ago

that all these democrats endorsed and supported Mamdani:
Gov. Kathy Hochul, Lt. Gov. Antonio Delgado, state Attorney General Letitia James, Reps. Hakeem Jeffries, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Jerrold Nadler, Nydia Velázquez, Adriano Espaillat, Pat Ryan and Yvette Clarke, state Comptroller Tom DiNapoli, New York City Comptroller Brad Lander, Public Advocate Jumaane Williams, state Senate Majority Leader Andrea Stewart-Cousins, Assembly Speaker Carl Heastie, state Sens. Brad Hoylman-Sigal, John Liu, Julia Salazar, Jabari Brisport, Kristen Gonzalez, Gustavo Rivera, Michael Gianaris, Zellnor Myrie, Luis Sepúlveda, José Serrano, Nathalia Fernandez, Liz Krueger, Andrew Gounardes, and Samra Brouk, Bronx Democratic Party Chair and state Sen. Jamaal Bailey, Brooklyn Democratic Party Chair and Assembly Member Rodneyse Bichotte Hermelyn, Assembly Members Micah Lasher, Emily Gallagher, Phara Souffrant Forest, Marcela Mitaynes, Karines Reyes, Claire Valdez, Sarahana Shrestha, Khaleel Anderson, Robert Carroll, Jessica González-Rojas, Brian Cunningham, Steven Raga, Manny De Los Santos, Khaleel Anderson, Bobby Carroll, George Alvarez, Jordan Wright, Harvey Epstein, Al Taylor, Tony Simone, Emerita Torres, Landon Dais, Alex Bores, Maritza Davila, Monique Chandler-Waterman and Jo Anne Simon, Manhattan Borough President Mark Levine, Brooklyn Borough President Antonio Reynoso, Queens Borough President Donovan Richards, Bronx Borough President Vanessa Gibson, City Council Speaker Adrienne Adams, City Council Members Chi Ossé, Justin Brannan, Shaun Abreu, Carmen De La Rosa, Pierina Sanchez, Jennifer Gutiérrez, Sandy Nurse, Lincoln Restler, Alexa Avilés, Tiffany Cabán, Shahana Hanif, Erik Bottcher, Crystal Hudson, Rita Joseph, Julie Won, Oswald Feliz, Diana Ayala, Kevin Riley, Chris Marte, Farah Louis and Amanda Farías, U.S. Sens. Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders and Chris Van Hollen, Reps. Pramila Jayapal, Ro Khanna and Jamie Raskin, former Rep. Jamaal Bowman, former Mayor Bill de Blasio, former U.S. Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris, New York City Department of Transportation Commissioner Ydanis Rodriguez.

Anything else is just spin, revision and belief.

Scrivener7

(60,183 posts)
36. Lol!
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 08:08 AM
16 hrs ago

But, unless there's a big twist, Platner is the guy. Mainers seem to be unshakeable on him.

Do I like him? No. Do I want every possible seat to go to a Democrat so we get control of the committees and begin to save our Democracy? Yes. Does he seem to have the best chance of doing that? Yes.

Go Platner.



Scrivener7

(60,183 posts)
50. I don't live in Maine either, but as I say, I need Democrats to win as many seats as possible so Democrats can gain
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 09:32 AM
14 hrs ago

control of the committees and save MY country. So this theme that seems to be developing on DU that says we must not have opinions about candidates in any state but our own is ridiculous. It most certainly is ALL our business.

SocialDemocrat61

(8,142 posts)
52. I hope all democrats win in November
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 09:40 AM
14 hrs ago

But the primary in Maine is next week. It's up to democrats in Maine to choose their nominee and none of my business.

SocialDemocrat61

(8,142 posts)
54. Thanks I will
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 09:43 AM
14 hrs ago

since I don't live in Maine and not up to me who the voters there chose as their nominee.

Cha

(321,076 posts)
10. Depends on who you're callingi "the Establisment"
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 11:51 PM
Thursday

Doesn't it, organgecruss?

Democratic National Committee Chair Ken Martin encourages New Yorkers to vote for Mamdani ahead of general election

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/democratic-national-committee-zohran-mamdani-endorsement-nyc-mayor-rcna237025

Pisces

(6,348 posts)
27. This isn't even a comparison. Mamdani is Muslim and that is what they held against him??
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 01:49 AM
22 hrs ago

mr715

(4,493 posts)
69. He campaigned with Hasan Piker! GASP!
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 12:19 PM
11 hrs ago

He would arrest Bibi GASP

He would stay in NY and not visit Israel GASP

He isn't a real Democrat, he's a socialist, GASP

He won the primary because he cannibalized a good, tried, experienced Democrat in Cuomo GASP

He has no experience and he lives in a rent stabilized apartment GASP

He orders egg and cheese with jalapenos GASP

Bluetus

(3,178 posts)
76. The "establishment" is exactly the word.
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 01:02 PM
11 hrs ago

It is AIPAC. It is Republicans that fear losing Collins' seat. It is corporate Democrats who are afraid of a populist energy taking over the party.

All of the above and more. The fact that AOC won multiple times, Mamdani won and has quickly transformed the NYC political calculus, and the fact that Platner is still standing tells us why the establishment is so fearful. They aren't afraid of Platner. They are afraid of Americans.

mr715

(4,493 posts)
80. Interesting way of thinking.
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 01:25 PM
10 hrs ago

They are afraid of Americans.

I don't know if I fully agree with this strong claim, but I generally agree with the sentiment.

They are fearful of a type of politics, a style of campaign that they have no experience in.

They are like toddlers going into a pool for the first time. They are tentative and they need water waders. This is not the election to be weak kneed

Emile

(43,696 posts)
4. Rebuilding our failing healthcare system is in Platner's platform.
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 11:18 PM
Thursday

I support Planter too!

JustAnotherGen

(38,150 posts)
31. That broken health insurance system
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 06:30 AM
17 hrs ago

Won't be fixed until the white supremacists are brought to heel by white Americans. Last time it took 78 years.

That's not something I believe can be aspired to in my lifetime.

Bettie

(19,948 posts)
37. Unfortunately, their lobbying groups have a TON of money to spread around
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 08:09 AM
16 hrs ago

to ensure that there is no meaningful change....it's all about money, us peasants not dying isn't really part of the business plan.

Just_Vote_Dem

(3,730 posts)
40. And now they've basically destroyed the Voting Rights Act
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 08:32 AM
15 hrs ago

The bastards want us back to the 1700's

Boo1

(554 posts)
5. What makes you think he can beat Collins
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 11:23 PM
Thursday

when ever week there will be a new scandal drop.

Big Blue Marble

(5,713 posts)
9. How many millions of negative ads
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 11:51 PM
Thursday

will drive those numbers down. It is long way from May until November and this is
fertile oppo material to work to build their case.

mr715

(4,493 posts)
13. Or not.
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 11:58 PM
Thursday

He's been teflon so far.

Susan Collins isn't popular. She is old. She is an institution. People will be voting against institutional figures.

Big Blue Marble

(5,713 posts)
21. You will see a firestorm of ads
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 12:49 AM
23 hrs ago

reminding the voters daily of all of these flaws. Most Mainers are not paying attention and
you are correct they are ready for change, but Planter maybe a bridge too far,
They will revert to Collins, especially the women. He is far from a sure thing and risks
tainting our party.

questionseverything

(12,054 posts)
28. Repubs and aipac are ready to spend over $200million against our senate candidates
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 03:22 AM
20 hrs ago

You are going to see negative ads no matter what, as always they have money to burn 🔥

Happy Hoosier

(9,683 posts)
43. As opposed to what? A candidate no one cares about?
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 08:39 AM
15 hrs ago

Platner isn't perfect. He's a guy with a history. He wasn't my choice, but he's gonna win the primary. And he CAN win. Time to focus on the goal.

Bettie

(19,948 posts)
38. Do you think Mills or Costello can beat Collins?
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 08:11 AM
16 hrs ago

She's like a tick, hard to dislodge.

Bettie

(19,948 posts)
45. I have known some toxic men in my life
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 08:46 AM
15 hrs ago

grew up with them all around me. My family is mostly male, I have one cousin who is a woman, the rest of us "kids" are men.

Most of them are awful. They taught me not to trust men/boys.

Of those men, most of them kept on with it, but a few completely turned themselves around and became different people.

Since I've seen it, experienced the "then and now" difference, I tend to support positive change, because if you treat someone like their past is the only thing that matters, there is no reason to change for the better.

There are also people who change for the worse.

I can't know for sure which category Platner is in (no one can), but I sure hope he can dislodge Collins and that is the most important thing this cycle: getting D butts in seats.

Boo1

(554 posts)
49. No they don't
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 09:29 AM
14 hrs ago

The last poll taken of Collins vs Mills had Mills ahead. The latest polling shows Planter up by statistically the same margin.

Emile

(43,696 posts)
51. You have a link to the poll that shows
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 09:36 AM
14 hrs ago

Mills ahead of Collins? I haven't seen that one.

Quiet Em

(3,132 posts)
57. A March Emerson poll had both Platner and Mills over Collins
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 10:04 AM
14 hrs ago

Platner with a slightly larger lead, but both leads close.

Maine Democrats are going to vote for the Democrat on the Senate line even if they aren't thrilled with the choice. Maine Democrats are not going to vote for Susan Collins.

Emile

(43,696 posts)
58. Yes, I researched that after I asked for a link. Out of 7 different
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 10:15 AM
14 hrs ago

polls Platner lead Collins in all of them.

Mills leads Collins in 2 of the 7. Mills +1 & Mills +3

mr715

(4,493 posts)
63. And, sorry for the pedantry, but a lead of +1 or +3 isn't a lead
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 12:07 PM
12 hrs ago

It is a tilt explainable by chance, due to margins of error.

I believe only Platner polled outside the margin of error against Collins.

mr715

(4,493 posts)
81. Statistically?
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 01:34 PM
10 hrs ago

Are you the one doing the T-tests for significance?

Or are you just saying 'They're close'

Boo1

(554 posts)
82. MoE are two tailed
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 01:42 PM
10 hrs ago

A 2 point lead and a 4 point lead across polls are not statistically different.

NNguyenMD

(1,340 posts)
11. I support Graham Platner. None of us has lived perfect lives. I want Collins OUT!!
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 11:53 PM
Thursday

The country elected a twice convicted felon rapist and Epstein’s best friend.

I can get over a guy who is right in the issues and regrets some past behavior. Who hasn’t done dumb shit in their lives. FDR, JFK LBJ weren’t exactly saints in their personal lives, but they pushed policies to improve the lives of people. That takes precedent over everything

Big Blue Marble

(5,713 posts)
12. These are exactly the rationale (rationalizations)
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 11:55 PM
Thursday

that got Trump elected by Republicans. He is a horrible person but
he will accomplish our agenda. Have we not been telling ourselves we are better
than they are. We want to win and we want to stay true to our core values.

mr715

(4,493 posts)
14. No more Alex Prettis or Renee Goods.
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 12:00 AM
Yesterday

I am willing to bend my principles to protect the people.

Big Blue Marble

(5,713 posts)
16. Then were do you draw the line..
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 12:32 AM
23 hrs ago

where does the bending stop. Misogyny, lying are excusable. What would be too much?
Character does matter if we want to recover our lost values
and our democracy to the MAGA's.

Besides:
The weight of his flaws are too much; he will lose to Collins. We deserve so much better.


NoRethugFriends

(3,813 posts)
26. Fuck character. If he votes Democratic, that's what matter
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 01:40 AM
22 hrs ago

The They go low, we go high" crap doesn't fly.

PhilosopherKing

(421 posts)
32. You are correct
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 07:03 AM
17 hrs ago

When Dems states were putting together redistricting commissions on the state level to make things “fair”, Repub states were gerrymandering the shit out of their states. When they go low we go high shit doesn’t work.

standingtall

(3,199 posts)
30. Your rationale sounds a lot like the people who stayed home or refused
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 03:55 AM
20 hrs ago

to vote for Kamala Harris over Gaza tell themselves. And what did their principles do for the people of Gaza? Nothing! What did it do for the American people? Also nothing besides having their rights further eroded. You principals mean nothing if they enable harm to be done to people those principals are suppose to protect. Susan Collins was deciding vote to put Kavanaugh on the Supreme despite claiming to be pro choice and had the nerve to give a partisan speech after it and she really should've lost the last time. Besides nothing that comes out against Platner so far is anywhere close to Trump or even Eric Swalwell if he gets to that level then maybe we can talk.

Happy Hoosier

(9,683 posts)
44. We can't do 2) without 1)
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 08:41 AM
15 hrs ago

We must win. At this point, that must be the focus. Platner is not a perfect man. But he can win.

Sympthsical

(11,191 posts)
24. I will be very glad when Tuesday is over
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 01:23 AM
22 hrs ago

California will be done, Maine will be done, and everyone will super duper be in Blue No Matter Who mode.

As prophecy foretold.

Violet_Crumble

(36,426 posts)
29. The sole purpose of Primaries appears to be dividing the party...
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 03:42 AM
20 hrs ago

At least that's how it comes across to me. A better way to do things would be to leave the mudslinging and attack dog behaviour to the internal mechanics of the party and let it decide who the candidates are. Far less drama, though I think the high drama and mudslinging is something a lot of Americans love. Preselection would cut the financial costs, which are obscenely huge in a country where a lot of people are far below the poverty line. Also, while I'm at it, introduce mandatory voting (cuts out the extremists and other highly motivated wankers), only have voting on weekends, and most importantly have sausage sizzles with Democracy Sausages. That'll solve a lot of issues.

Midwestern Democrat

(1,040 posts)
61. I'm not at all in favor of letting the elites of what many think is a calcified, out of touch political establishment
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 11:24 AM
12 hrs ago

decide who the candidates are. I'm also totally against mandatory voting - people shouldn't be forced to vote if they don't want to and frankly, I don't really want uninformed people voting.

mr715

(4,493 posts)
87. Primaries are good.
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 02:23 PM
9 hrs ago

We are not a parliamentary system with a government and back benchers operating in the same body.

Voters decide who they want to represent them. Primaries get us people like Mamdani, who are not recognized by the upper echelons of the Democratic party. His raw talent and foot work put him on the map - and he won with votes, not the patronage of his party elders.

Primaries are an essential feature of modern American Democracy. They are good. They are healthy. They should be encouraged. They are effective. They disinfect and reveal the hidden. They show who really wants the job versus someone following the corsus honorem.

Mandatory voting? No. Make voting easy, incentivize it, and make it a holiday. But never take away from people the opportunity to say no.

SlimPetey

(1 post)
25. Coincident?
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 01:25 AM
22 hrs ago

The NY Times interviewed six former girlfriends for the Planter story. Only one of them reported being physically hurt by him. And she just happens to be a GOP operative. What a coincidink!

Happy Hoosier

(9,683 posts)
41. Platner is flawed.
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 08:37 AM
15 hrs ago

So are most of us. Ihave my reservations, but navel gazing will not help us. We must be ferocious to defeat the MAGAts. WE need to stop apologizing and focus on the goal.

You don't see the right-wing media hand-wriging over Paxton. They are attacking Talarico.

We need to stop forming the circular firing squad and focus on defeating "Concerned" Collins.

GTF over it.

gab13by13

(32,915 posts)
56. I'm in Pa. also
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 10:04 AM
14 hrs ago

gave money to Fetterman, voted for him, his stroke morphed him into a Magat.

ZDU

(1,466 posts)
55. Circular Firing...
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 09:52 AM
14 hrs ago

Tock tick, tock tick... the noise, the noise

Platner will prevail.

awesomerwb1

(5,169 posts)
59. Do we have a choice?
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 10:44 AM
13 hrs ago

Looking forward to seeing Susan Collins go away forever (hopefully).

Hoping this guy doesn't become Fetterman 2.0. I'm tired of this ****.

MineralMan

(151,796 posts)
60. I have a solid hope that the voters in Maine will do the right thing
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 10:54 AM
13 hrs ago

and dump Susan Collins. I don't vote there.

Now, meanwhile, I have a nasty Senate primary race in Minnesota to deal with. One of our Democratic candidates is running an awful Deep Fake AI ad against her also Democratic opponent in the primary. It's getting ugly. I do vote here.

No tattoos that I know of, though...

Llewlladdwr

(2,207 posts)
62. I don't think you realize how badly this is going to go.
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 11:48 AM
12 hrs ago

All the information being leaked about Platner so far has come from Democratic operatives. These are being done to get Platner to step aside. The Republicans are saving their oppo research for the general, and it's going to be much worse. I'm talking dick pics and chat logs worse because the one thing we know for sure is that Platner is a freak with poor impulse control. That shit is out there.

mr715

(4,493 posts)
67. This.
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 12:16 PM
12 hrs ago

It doesn't inspire confidence when you are unable to run a campaign long enough to get to the general.

Janet Mills had the support of the party apparatus and she was unable to break out because she was too institutional. This is going to be an election defined by anti-institutional, anti-incumbent sentiment, not scandals or endorsements.

If Sanders' endorsement was enough, solely, to propel Platner to the nomination that says a lot about where our party is and we need to recognize it. Personally, I don't believe Sanders has that level of power within the party, or on the party. I think he providing some kindling to a candidate whose messaging was ripe to take off.

Barring abuse, criminal activity, or legitimate questions of his electability in this cycle I will continue to pseudo-unapologetically support him because Susan Collins must not win.

The road to the Senate runs through Maine.

mr715

(4,493 posts)
66. How do we know this isn't GOP operatives?
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 12:12 PM
12 hrs ago

If it were Democratic operatives, shouldn't it have come out sometime before Janet Mills said she was out of money and effectively dropped out?

If it were Democratic operatives and they were trying to get Platner to step aside, which is the strategy in "keeping their powder dry" if there are dick pics etc.

How do we know dick pics will drive people away?

Maybe Mainers are interested in a person that reflects the current trend in online and social media culture?

I don't understand the gnashing of teeth and rending of garments over a candidate that has sex.

Yeah, he probably cheated a whole bunch. Bad. 90% of people in power do it. Hell, Susan Collins did it.

Llewlladdwr

(2,207 posts)
71. But it's not just the sex crap...
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 12:27 PM
11 hrs ago

It's the totenkopf, the misogynist comments, the racist comments, the homophobic comments...and we'll be hearing about all this every day between now and November...and every other Dem candidate in every other race better be prepared for questions about their support for him and his history.

mr715

(4,493 posts)
78. Does the misogynistic, racist, homophobic comments...
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 01:21 PM
10 hrs ago

cut into Collins' base?

Because I bet it does.

I bet there are plenty of Mainers sick of Collins and, on the right, are turned on by the candidate Platner presents himself as, irrespective of his policy or rhetoric. A penis and tattoos and a marine. That is all they need .

Soul_of_Wit

(170 posts)
79. Context matters in a general election
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 01:22 PM
10 hrs ago

Who will be doing the negative campaigning? What weaknesses does the opponent have? It is 2026, and Donald is well into his second term. A long Reddit history can be used to advantage. Simply shut down any drip, drip, drip attempts. It isn't hard to pivot from "asked and answered" to "my opponent is a loyal MAGA vote--every time."

Fellow Democratic candidates are not required to participate in pointless questions. Pivot from "I support all Democrats" to "Mr. Platner is more than willing to be transparent about any issues you wish to discuss with him." Politics is a whole lot of answering the questions which further your interests--without appearing to be dismissive.

obamanut2012

(29,595 posts)
73. Yup, after next week's Primary, God knows what may come out
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 12:29 PM
11 hrs ago

We dodged bullet with Swalwell here in CA, but just barely.

LisaL

(47,760 posts)
74. It certainly was fortunate that information about Swalwell came out before the primary.
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 12:32 PM
11 hrs ago

NT

obamanut2012

(29,595 posts)
83. We were very lucky that blogger blew it up
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 01:47 PM
10 hrs ago

Because you KNOW they would have waited until late August and released all of it.

Just_Vote_Dem

(3,730 posts)
86. Oh, I'm sure they have some people tucked away ready to serve up some nonsense
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 02:07 PM
10 hrs ago

That's how pubs roll, unfortunately. IMO doesn't matter who the candidate is, they'll have something to try and cause great concern

Aepps22

(422 posts)
75. Hope the polls translate into Votes
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 12:51 PM
11 hrs ago

Susan is hard to beat so I’m hoping that at some point Planter can clear the air on everything asap. Each day that he isn’t attacking Susan is a wasted day. Each day that he is having to defend something in his past is a wasted day. The sooner he can put this drama to bed the better shot he has but I stopped trusting Maine’s polls when they had Gideon beating Collins last time. There is a loyal block of dems in Maine that keep voting for Susan. I hope Platner has a plan for reaching them because we have to win.

mainer

(12,616 posts)
84. The choice? A flawed candidate who will vote to preserve women's rights
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 01:53 PM
10 hrs ago

vs. goody two-shoes Susie Collins, who will vote with the party that vows to take away women's rights.

Let's see. Whom should women vote for?

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