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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy doesn't anyone talk about Charlie Kirk anymore
The greatest martyr in American history and one of the most influential thinkers in the 21st century.
It's like he is being treated as a common grifter with a schtick. Soon to be forgotten.
Mz Pip
(28,525 posts)Has a less deserving figure garnered so much acknowledgement across the country after their death?
Scrivener7
(60,183 posts)Also, they found the gun that killed him didn't match the gun of the guy they tagged as the killer. So someone doesn't want that talked about a lot.
SheltieLover
(82,060 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(17,786 posts)I didn't know that. Thanks for the info. I wondered why the killer's mugshot wasn't all over the news.
Scrivener7
(60,183 posts)sop
(19,586 posts)'Bullet That Killed Charlie Kirk Doesn't Match Tyler Robinson's Rifle, His Lawyers Claim'
"Lawyers for Tyler Robinson, the man accused of killing Charlie Kirk, argue in a new court filing that authorities have been unable to link the bullet that killed the conservative activist to a gun 'allegedly tied' to their client."
"The claim is found in a motion to delay an upcoming preliminary hearing scheduled for May, during which a judge will decide whether the case will proceed."
"Robinson's defense team claims that an Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms (ATF) summary report indicated that the agency 'was unable to identify the bullet recovered at autopsy to the rifle allegedly tied to Mr. Robinson.' "
" 'Although the State has not indicated an intent to produce this report at the preliminary hearing, the defense may very well decide to offer the testimony of the ATF firearm analyst as exculpatory evidence,' the filing states."
Article at link:
https://people.com/bullet-killed-charlie-kirk-doesnt-match-tyler-robinson-rifle-lawyers-claim-11938079
And:
'Did a bullet analysis clear Charlie Kirk's suspected killer? What an 'inconclusive' result means'
"New court filings in Utah's case against Tyler Robinson, the suspect in Charlie Kirk's murder, gave way to widespread claims that a bullet analysis exonerates him."
"Robinson's lawyers wrote in a March 27 court filing that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives was 'unable to identify the bullet recovered at autopsy to the rifle allegedly tied to Mr. Robinson.' "
"In a previous court filing from March 10, lawyers for news media seeking public disclosure quoted an ATF report that the defense counsel had cited. The report compared a bullet jacket fragment from Kirk's autopsy to a recovered rifle and determined the comparison to be 'inconclusive.' "
"These led to reports, including a March 30 Daily Mail headline that read, 'Bullet used to kill Charlie Kirk did NOT match rifle allegedly used by suspect Tyler Robinson, new court filing claims.' "
Article at link:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/did-a-bullet-analysis-clear-charlie-kirks-suspected-killer-what-an-inconclusive-result-means
MustLoveBeagles
(17,786 posts)canetoad
(21,102 posts)You would think the FBI was trying to keep secret. Thanks!
JPK
(1,001 posts)But I got a fund raising mail piece from Erika asking for cash. Her signature looks similar to Trump's' barely legible. I am debating on sending it back with a proper note.
Diamond_Dog
(41,294 posts)SallyHemmings
(1,974 posts)Alpeduez21
(2,082 posts)More than a dozen or so. On various properties
BlueTsunami2018
(5,105 posts)Fuck that guy.
Kid Berwyn
(25,243 posts)Charlie was a NAZI asshole
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215761950
MustLoveBeagles
(17,786 posts)I was upset about the murder because I knew liberals would be blamed whether we were involved or not. And low and behold, we were.
I was bothered by by the fact that his family witnessed it, though Erika lost my sympathy when she started profiting off it. All that said, I don't condone his murder.
dweller
(28,777 posts)Changed my mind
😑
✌🏻
NewHendoLib
(61,924 posts)EYESORE 9001
(29,942 posts)JMO
RT Atlanta
(2,833 posts)the grifters move on to the next one in a hurry
I am still curious about kirk's murder and learning what 'really' happened that day (as in why was the murder scene basically bulldozed the next day)
sop
(19,586 posts)No one remembers Limbaugh, he was forgotten faster than Kirk.
Midwestern Democrat
(1,040 posts)broadcasters - which of course is a dying industry - he was in that top echelon that includes Paul Harvey, Howard Stern, Don Imus, Larry King, and a few others.
marble falls
(72,845 posts)malaise
(298,571 posts)There is not one authentic bone in his so called movement.
H2O Man
(79,367 posts)Last edited Fri Jun 5, 2026, 01:19 PM - Edit history (1)
According to WaterMan News on DU:GD, Charlie is still dead.
I'll keep an eye out for any further updates.
You know authentic bro - Hurricane, Ali et al.
Kirk and these others clowns are just racist RW grifters and yes he is still dead.
H2O Man
(79,367 posts)he was allegedly killed, I had no idea who he was (or had been). So I asked my kids, and they showed me some videos of him "debating" some kids at colleges. I began ranting that I would go to the next college he planned to appear at to debate kids. But my kids said, "No, Dad, he'll still be dead."
malaise
(298,571 posts)me wusserer (worse)😀😀. I had never heard his name.
H2O Man
(79,367 posts)I don't speak ill of the dead. And since I've read my posts today confirming that he is dead, I scouring DU:GD to make sure that no one is saying mean and awful things about Charlie, because rumor has it that he is still dead. Now, the same goes for the widow woman. So what if she once worked for Jeffrey Epstein and that pesky foreign intelligence community that got upset that Charlie had taken a stance against the genocide in Gaza. She was an adult, making an honest living as a political prostitute. Even if she was convinced that she would be better off with Charlie dead -- which he is -- we should not take sides in a dispute between spouses. When they get back together, they'd blame us for stirring the pot.
malaise
(298,571 posts)Im off to get some coffee icecream before the rain begins and damn we need some rain 😀
H2O Man
(79,367 posts)both days this weekend, which is good for my garden. Without rain I'd have to cart water out again, a chore that becomes more difficult each year. But old gardners warned me that without frequent watering, one risks their carrots and potatoes looking like Charlie Kirk when harvested. And although work has it that Charlie is dead, he wasn't buried in my compost pile.
malaise
(298,571 posts)Carrots are real cheap right now- a lovely post-Melissa crop.
H2O Man
(79,367 posts)At first I thought that you wrote about first "lady" Melania being a cheap something or another. I've seen a number of our good friends saying something akin to that, based on the bumpy airplane ride that the president engaged with her in on Epstein's jet the first time he met her. Now, all that is true, of course: Jeffrey didn't charge him the $5 most people had for a romp with her. But we know that she has become a very expensive investment the president has paid for her to pretend she likes him. The poor guy can't afford to pay her enough to hold hands with him for photo opportunities. I'm sure that you will agree that we should respect her as the first "call girl" to reach her amazing status. And honor the fact that Julia Roberts cleaned Melania's wonder-filled story up in that bio-pic "Pretty Woman."
malaise
(298,571 posts)Melissa and Melania😀
H2O Man
(79,367 posts)that the very first "Me,Too" movement was when the president announced on Epstein's luxury jet that he was getting in line to boink Melanie.
malaise
(298,571 posts)as always 😀
Quiet Em
(3,132 posts)I had no idea who he was
H2O Man
(79,367 posts)He's not Ben Shapiro? That raises numerous questions, any one of which provides me a good excuse to postpone mowing my lawn. This first, of course, is: who is Ben Shapiro? They look so much alike ..... except Charlie no longer smiles for photographers, because he is still dead.
Quiet Em
(3,132 posts)H2O Man
(79,367 posts)those maga sites there are all types of conspiracy theories about if Charlie is still dead, or who actually murdered him if he is dead. Or maybe I'm just making that up. They should be more respectful, as we are here today.
CivicGrief
(325 posts)High school kids are being bribed to start chapters of his club in their schools. White-washed nazi youth.
MustLoveBeagles
(17,786 posts)HAB911
(10,644 posts)H2O Man
(79,367 posts)Mere seconds before you posted this correct response, I had posted the exact same thing (see post #19). Hopefully, with both of us posting the same thing, all these rumors about him being alive and hanging out with Jim Morrison and JFK, Jr. will stop. As tough as it is, we need to accept that he is still dead.
HAB911
(10,644 posts)"Sir, Ronald Reagan is still dead too." I don't know what to think about all this sainthood talk.
H2O Man
(79,367 posts)Years ago, while getting high with Abbie Hoffman -- I did not inhale, nor did I swallow while drinking the beer we had -- we discussed the rumor that Reagan had actually died early on in his first term as president, and had been freeze-dried. To explain how they made him appear alive, we agreed in was a case of "kryptonics," a word we had no idea of the meaning thereof, but sounded like a good bluff.
malaise
(298,571 posts)Delish😀😫😀
H2O Man
(79,367 posts)It has resolved a great mystery by providing evidence -- overwhelming, I'd say -- that Charlie is still dead.
struggle4progress
(126,860 posts)RandySF
(87,081 posts)Emile
(43,696 posts)GarColga
(180 posts)who was basically just a podcaster, is one of the weirdest things ever.
Sailingdiver
(374 posts)mr715
(4,493 posts)MineralMan
(151,796 posts)So, no news.
ColoringFool
(1,229 posts)I'm calling mine "The Charlie."
Initech
(109,416 posts)struggle4progress
(126,860 posts)usonian
(26,784 posts)1. There's no money in it any more (except the bribes and blackmail that still exists) and
2. The devil (all the devils) are in the details. Either some disagreement among the forces of evil, or agreement among the forces of evil to keep the details secret. Even the most visible "acquaintances" have moved on to other wives either because of Epstein or via Epstein. (1) Bill Gates hasn't remarried but does have a (human) girl friend.
(1) Creatively un-redacted image from the "Birthday Book"

☐ Worth $22,500, or
☐ Not worth $22,500.
Johnny2X2X
(24,485 posts)Once the turnip of his death runs dry, you know it's coming.
Aviation Pro
(15,832 posts).
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(15,223 posts)Aristus
(72,648 posts)I hated that ridiculous, gummy, smug grin of his.
The Blue Flower
(6,626 posts)He looked like a cheap thug in his photos.
Vogon_Glory
(10,404 posts)that he was mortally wounded. Id come to the bitter conclusion that only the Good Guys got shot in 21st Century America and that Charlie Kirk was going to live as long as Methuselah.
buzzycrumbhunger
(2,273 posts)
a character from South Park. I mean seriouslythat weird balloon head, giant forehead, frightening tooth-to-gum ratio, and beady little eyes? Was there even a body attached, or did his head just float around like a stoned Mr. Garrison on a string?
Kaleva
(40,458 posts)Charlie Kirk? 😁
AverageOldGuy
(4,259 posts)Is he the guy who underwent a carotid artery dissection in public?
LoisB
(13,641 posts)JT45242
(4,179 posts)For ing people to take indoctrination classes at the university of Iowa and want to name the building and department after Charlie Kirk
Kaleva
(40,458 posts)ZDU
(1,466 posts)CozyMystery
(763 posts)And since I regard him as a nobody before and after his death, I wonder why he wasn't murdered instead of assassinated. I guess being plain old murdered is too common, not fancy enough.
jmowreader
(53,462 posts)He was a big fish in a very small pond - the "sell conservatism to college students" pond - but outside of us liberals who knew about him, very few people who weren't in his circle knew him.
Thunderbeast
(3,838 posts)H2O Man
(79,367 posts)Just from the face down, of course. No blood money here.
H2O Man
(79,367 posts)This OP/thread has made me happy today. Thank you, edhopper. Thank you, Charlie Kirk. And thank all of the DU community for expressing their thoughts and prayers that Charlie is okay.
Aviation Pro
(15,832 posts)Oh, my bad, I thought I read to Charlie Kirk.
Never mind.
louis-t
(24,671 posts)He tried to teach kids that the way to solve problems was with a gun. He tried to teach kids to mistrust any black person.
marble falls
(72,845 posts)Norrrm
(5,803 posts)Pisces
(6,348 posts)going on at all times fighting for air time that the biggest fire gets all the attention.
OC375
(1,144 posts)A literal broken tool. Sometimes, you're just a dead guy, not a martyr.
