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Aviation Pro

(15,832 posts)
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 04:02 PM 8 hrs ago

So, it's looking like the whole Platner "controversy"

Is just more Republicant rat fuckery.

Quell surprise.

Didn’t we learn this lesson when that non-entity accused President Biden of sexual misconduct?

It’s high time to ignore this unsubstantiated bullshit and refocus on the objective: Dump the fucking worthless oxygen thief of Maine.

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So, it's looking like the whole Platner "controversy" (Original Post) Aviation Pro 8 hrs ago OP
The timing is certainly suspect. Ocelot II 8 hrs ago #1
Corcerning, one might even say peppertree 7 hrs ago #17
It's all those fuckers got Blue Owl 8 hrs ago #2
There are a few here that believe every word of it Ziggy Beans 8 hrs ago #3
And do they ever swat you if you disagree with them. Polly Hennessey 6 hrs ago #28
Yeah, your insults to members aren't helping Cha 5 hrs ago #42
Shocking ZDU 8 hrs ago #4
Focus on Collins and her record! flamingdem 8 hrs ago #5
Yep, stop taking the bait CivicGrief 6 hrs ago #29
What record?? AZ8theist 5 hrs ago #33
Pretty sick of our sides purity tests when there is a rapist ALBliberal 8 hrs ago #6
Gary Hart, Ed Muskie, "Old Joe" Biden, Mike Dukakis and Bill Somethingorother ... usonian 7 hrs ago #7
nice photo: Troy Jackson, Bernie Sanders, Graham Platner eShirl 7 hrs ago #8
The photo is from Bernie's website. usonian 6 hrs ago #23
No Fetterman pics there, weird. MorbidButterflyTat 6 hrs ago #26
It's nice to see a picture of Fetterman from his sane days. nt Gore1FL 6 hrs ago #31
He was never different Boo1 45 min ago #50
I wonder. What is it about binary choices some don't seem to understand? paleotn 5 hrs ago #36
Well, Hart DID Issue A Challenge, One Will Recall. ColoringFool 7 hrs ago #15
The Platner "news" sniffs of the old Lee Atwater/Roger Stone days. And Stone's allegorical oracle 6 hrs ago #20
Seems a lot like the Al Franken fiasco to me. Bluepinky 1 hr ago #48
Here's where Im at. Platner is flawed and engaged in bad behavior that I would not tolerate in my personal Nanjeanne 7 hrs ago #9
And Dems fall for it every time. paleotn 7 hrs ago #10
Not. This. Time. Aviation Pro 7 hrs ago #11
Clarification. Not all Dems. Some. paleotn 6 hrs ago #32
Please explain how they got 2 Democratic women to go along EdmondDantes_ 7 hrs ago #12
I don't explain anything Aviation Pro 7 hrs ago #14
Amen! CivicGrief 6 hrs ago #30
Go along with what? They said he had dark moods and was struggling and when old Reddit posts Nanjeanne 7 hrs ago #18
Only the Republican operative claimed anything approaching noteworthiness Dave says 6 hrs ago #25
If you're in Maine, are you voting for Susan Collins? paleotn 5 hrs ago #34
Platner isn't in the Epstein files. Bluepinky 51 min ago #49
K&R spanone 7 hrs ago #13
Source? ColoringFool 7 hrs ago #16
This message was self-deleted by its author paleotn 5 hrs ago #35
All the hallmarks of an orchestrated smear. pat_k 6 hrs ago #19
I just reread that story, too. Al Franken got a raw deal. calimary 5 hrs ago #43
It's some bullshit cooked up by Fox to steal yet another seat. Initech 6 hrs ago #21
My thoughts on all of this remain unchanged, in that B.See 6 hrs ago #22
Now this is MaineNative 6 hrs ago #24
The GOP gathers evidence and ignores it, we Democrats execute the accused and then gather the evidence, ... marble falls 6 hrs ago #27
Yep. SSDD. paleotn 5 hrs ago #37
Yep, it's the old Democrats gotta be perfect. Circular firing squad. oldmanlynn 5 hrs ago #38
Fetterman attackes Platner. maliaSmith 5 hrs ago #39
Fuck that Lurch Aviation Pro 3 hrs ago #47
Democrats should vote against Platner when Republicans vote against the traitor rapist felon dalton99a 5 hrs ago #40
Yeah. Like THAT'LL happen. calimary 5 hrs ago #44
Message auto-removed Name removed 5 hrs ago #41
Recommended. H2O Man 5 hrs ago #45
A fair number of women whom I've dated PCIntern 4 hrs ago #46
Only thing??? Everyone will forget about it in what, 5 days??? Who'll really care??? a kennedy 42 min ago #51

Blue Owl

(59,766 posts)
2. It's all those fuckers got
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 04:04 PM
8 hrs ago

They have nothing to run on — just desperate attempts to distract and blame others while they stand neck-deep in tRump’s cesspool

Cha

(321,076 posts)
42. Yeah, your insults to members aren't helping
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 06:56 PM
5 hrs ago

your cause.

It says nothing about those who weren't okay with Planter's own words, like this one.. Except we're not okay with it.

In 2013, Reddit posts that resurfaced during his campaign, Platner downplayed the military's sexual assault crisis. He wrote that women worried about rape need to "not get so f---ed up they wind up having sex with someone they don't mean to" and told people to "act like an adult for f---s sake".



CivicGrief

(325 posts)
29. Yep, stop taking the bait
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 06:04 PM
6 hrs ago

But someone is glad to control the narrative. What happened to all the preaching about talking about the issues that concern people?

AZ8theist

(7,702 posts)
33. What record??
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 06:19 PM
5 hrs ago

She's just a brainless automoton doing whatever Repuke leadership TELLS her to do.

ALBliberal

(3,405 posts)
6. Pretty sick of our sides purity tests when there is a rapist
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 04:08 PM
8 hrs ago

Con man abuser of everything we hold dear including our WHITE HOUSE dozing off in the oval abusing reporters!

We need democrats!!!!!!!

usonian

(26,784 posts)
7. Gary Hart, Ed Muskie, "Old Joe" Biden, Mike Dukakis and Bill Somethingorother ...
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 04:21 PM
7 hrs ago

DAMN, They ain't perfect. CONDEMNED.

MEANWHILE

Felons, rapists, pedophiles, traitors, war criminals, mass murderers of young school children, blackmailers, money-launderers (for starters, he's the president) and associated violent mobs and rogue gestapo murdering cops get PARDONED.

I suggest that we focus, as does Bernie, on the OLIGARCHS controlling government and making us pay for their trillions in "welfare for the rich"




Rallying With Sanders, Platner Condemns 'Corrupt Politicians and the Corporations That Bought Them'
https://www.commondreams.org/news/bernie-sanders-graham-platner
"We will defeat the oligarchy and the political system that it maintains," said Graham Platner. "The politics of Susan Collins."





eShirl

(20,485 posts)
8. nice photo: Troy Jackson, Bernie Sanders, Graham Platner
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 04:31 PM
7 hrs ago

Troy's running to replace Janet Mills, who'll be at the end of her term limit (governor)

Boo1

(554 posts)
50. He was never different
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 11:33 PM
45 min ago

he was always a shithead. Some just decided to ignore that and elect him anyway.

allegorical oracle

(6,631 posts)
20. The Platner "news" sniffs of the old Lee Atwater/Roger Stone days. And Stone's
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 05:34 PM
6 hrs ago

still kicking.

Bluepinky

(2,578 posts)
48. Seems a lot like the Al Franken fiasco to me.
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 11:18 PM
1 hr ago

I hope Platner wins, and I wish Franken would get back into politics. We can’t let the party that’s okay with pedophilia derail us.

Nanjeanne

(6,737 posts)
9. Here's where Im at. Platner is flawed and engaged in bad behavior that I would not tolerate in my personal
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 04:53 PM
7 hrs ago

life. Many vets come back from 3 deployments with issues. He speaks about this and I admire his struggle to get back into a system that is, at best, difficult to navigate. But nothing I’ve learned would make me not support him if I were in Maine. And as far as this recent story re Lindsey Fifield - I feel someone who went into a business to support Kavanaugh and destroy Christine Blasey Ford who had accused Kavanaugh of a much more serious crime. If all women need to be believed, Fifield better start with herself.

paleotn

(22,908 posts)
32. Clarification. Not all Dems. Some.
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 06:18 PM
6 hrs ago

And for those some, it seems a candidate must be perfectly aligned and pure as the driven snow or they're immediately tossed on the rubbish pile. With that mindset, the Dems in question are easily manipulated by the really nefarious people in our political system.

One of the great ironies in modern American politics. To a significant degree Gaza got us where we are right now. Not completely, but in a game of inches, every inch counts. Same dynamic. Same failure to understand binary choices. And that life rarely aligns with our preferred choice. Most of the time it's choose the best of the lot because that's all ya get. Don't choose rationally and you run a far higher probability of the worst case scenario. Four more years of Donnie Trump. Or six more of Susan Collins. Little difference.

EdmondDantes_

(2,185 posts)
12. Please explain how they got 2 Democratic women to go along
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 04:59 PM
7 hrs ago

Blackmail, long con? Or are you going with the theory that if you dismiss one on claims of it being partisan that inherently dismisses the other?

Aviation Pro

(15,832 posts)
14. I don't explain anything
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 05:01 PM
7 hrs ago

I’m attuned to the objective, remove that bag of nothing and useless glass hammer from the Senate.

Nanjeanne

(6,737 posts)
18. Go along with what? They said he had dark moods and was struggling and when old Reddit posts
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 05:15 PM
7 hrs ago

came up they sounded like something he might have said given the anger and alcohol. Not easy being in a relationship with someone struggling like that. Many vets come back after multiple deployments and have those difficulties. Something Platner speaks about. They never claimed physicality or claimed he talked about his Nazi tattoo so what would they have to go along with.

Jenny Racicot, 41, a Maine Democrat, who said she dated him casually off and on between 2019 and 2021, said the posts deepened her belief that he did not respect women. “When I saw the old comments that he made online,” she said, “I recognized a version of him that I had experiences with.”


The three described him in similar terms. Spending time with him could be exhilarating, they said. But they also recounted patterns of heavy drinking and womanizing. Asked to sum up how he treated her, the third woman said she felt like “collateral damage to the world that is his.”


That’s your sum total of the other two.

Dave says

(5,485 posts)
25. Only the Republican operative claimed anything approaching noteworthiness
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 05:56 PM
6 hrs ago

The other two, both Democrats, say he had at times negative attitude (one chose to be anonymous). The Times solicited input from 3 others, in the name of fairness. All three said he was gentle, generous, and a nice guy.

This is too much like past Republican smear campaigns to not be highly suspicious that they're doing it again.

ED, you protest too much. I hope you vote Democrat every chance you get, but I'm suspicious you may not.

Bluepinky

(2,578 posts)
49. Platner isn't in the Epstein files.
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 11:27 PM
51 min ago

Until the Repubs expunge all their pedophiles from holding political office, we should ignore their utterances on morality.

Response to ColoringFool (Reply #16)

pat_k

(14,152 posts)
19. All the hallmarks of an orchestrated smear.
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 05:31 PM
6 hrs ago

I just re-read Jane Mayer's The Case of Al Franken.

Start with a drip drip, then pile everything you can possibly dig up on without looking past the surface. Release in rapid succession so there's no time for individual reports to be scrutinized. Cue outrage at "nothing terrible in isolation, but look at the number of them!"

It sure looks like the same playbook.

Perhaps Jane will do an investigation of "The Case of Graham Platner." I'd sure like to hear more background on each and every report. I suspect it comes down to the same thing. A whole lot of smoke with no actual fire.

New Yorker
The Case of Al Franken
Jane Mayer
July 22, 2019

https://web.archive.org/web/20190829044419/https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/07/29/the-case-of-al-franken

calimary

(91,084 posts)
43. I just reread that story, too. Al Franken got a raw deal.
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 07:08 PM
5 hrs ago

There. I said it.

I used to work in the entertainment arena. Based in L.A. Covered all the celebrity stuff because L.A. was and still is a “company town”, and showbiz dominated everything. You went after the stars cuz your bosses wanted it, cuz THEIR bosses wanted it, and you knew ALL your listeners AND viewers AND readers wanted it, from coast-to-coast.

When it came to even casual encounters, everybody hugged and kissed AND “air-kissed”, A LOT. It never meant anything deeper than that, as far as I could ever see. I still feel sorry for Al Franken, who I feel was pretty much railroaded outta there. Yeah, he sometimes pushed the limit, especially as a comedian, but not once did I ever feel like he deserved to be crucified like that, for any reason. But I guess some people are just driven to run over others, especially if fame and glitter, and power and influence are involved. And Al Franken took his job as Senator VERY seriously, and got a lot done to serve his constituents.

I won’t say anything more than - it’s nice to be retired.

Initech

(109,416 posts)
21. It's some bullshit cooked up by Fox to steal yet another seat.
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 05:34 PM
6 hrs ago

They can't win elections otherwise.

B.See

(8,950 posts)
22. My thoughts on all of this remain unchanged, in that
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 05:35 PM
6 hrs ago
Yes, there are legitimate concerns re some if this guy's past behavior and comments, and yes, would be nice if there was a front runner in Maine with less baggage.

But, IMO that's up to Maine's voters. And if they choose him then he is unquestionably the preference over a rubber stamping right wing maga suck-up like Collins.

And that has consistently been my position, whether it was Mamdani's candidacy in NY, or Crockett vs Talerico in Texas (when tv comedians decided to weigh in on 'who can't win').

I don't tell Democrats in other states who to vote for. However, in the face of a Republican alternative, I will support their choice.

MaineNative

(105 posts)
24. Now this is
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 05:46 PM
6 hrs ago

just making me more determined to help out. It’s just getting more koo koo, the stories keep changing, and the paper of record, Portland Press Herald, chose to publish parts of the original NYTs hit piece with a disclaimer that they basically didn’t verify the story. That was worth another 25 dollar donation.

Form the PPH today - Fifield, 40, who lives in Virginia, is listed as a “visiting fellow” on the website of the conservative group Independent Women. Her resume includes previously working for the conservative Heritage Foundation and briefly on former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley’s 2024 presidential campaign.

“Let’s be very clear: This is a lifelong GOP operative who’s dedicated her career to electing Republicans,” the Platner campaign said in a Thursday statement.

marble falls

(72,845 posts)
27. The GOP gathers evidence and ignores it, we Democrats execute the accused and then gather the evidence, ...
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 06:02 PM
6 hrs ago

... like we did with Sen Al Franken.

oldmanlynn

(866 posts)
38. Yep, it's the old Democrats gotta be perfect. Circular firing squad.
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 06:33 PM
5 hrs ago

Maybe we can revert to that in 10 years from now but right now we gotta vote every damn Democrat we can into office

maliaSmith

(213 posts)
39. Fetterman attackes Platner.
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 06:34 PM
5 hrs ago

Fetterman is totally nuts. He said things about Platner that I won't repeat, but they're sick as Fetterman is.

dalton99a

(95,766 posts)
40. Democrats should vote against Platner when Republicans vote against the traitor rapist felon
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 06:41 PM
5 hrs ago

calimary

(91,084 posts)
44. Yeah. Like THAT'LL happen.
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 07:11 PM
5 hrs ago

Especially the Republican part. Look who THEY stand with. Still!

Response to Aviation Pro (Original post)

PCIntern

(28,691 posts)
46. A fair number of women whom I've dated
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 07:21 PM
4 hrs ago

Might say I have (fill in the blank) behavior, like these women are saying.

Yeah: I reacted to things contrary to the way they thought I should. My ex went ballistic when some motherfucker insulted me as I held a door for him and his wife, and I gave him a sneering reply. She talked about that for eight years. How DARE I speak to strangers that way?

Another was upset because she came on to me and for a variety of reasons I did not wish to be intimate with her. She thought she was the second coming of Candace Bergen, which she most definitely was not in any sense. Any. She had nothing nice to say about me because a man is never supposed to refuse “that”.

I could go on and on. My wife has (essentially) no complaints.

a kennedy

(36,530 posts)
51. Only thing??? Everyone will forget about it in what, 5 days??? Who'll really care???
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 11:35 PM
42 min ago

It’s always what the hell is gonna happen next. 10 days at most.

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