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Tesha

(21,172 posts)
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 06:43 AM 11 hrs ago

Here's a good read on Platner

"So let’s just keep our eye on the ball. If you are a liberal democrat, or better yet, a progressive democrat, you should be grateful that this guy and his long suffering wife are willing to stand out in the force 10 shitstorm being directed at them in order to make America a better place for working people."


https://www.facebook.com/rob.gardner.399

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Here's a good read on Platner (Original Post) Tesha 11 hrs ago OP
A worthy perspective. Gardner's credentials are impressive. ariadne0614 11 hrs ago #1
This is why I don't believe people who claim "of course I knew it was a Totenkopf!" mainer 10 hrs ago #2
and yet people will continue to go on about it eShirl 9 hrs ago #8
Thankfully people are catching on to their despicable behavior, and supporting the progressive. Emile 9 hrs ago #11
While Republicans nominated Ken Paxton for the Senate dalton99a 10 hrs ago #3
any other link than Facebook or is just a Facebook article? nt Javaman 10 hrs ago #4
See post #6 questionseverything 7 hrs ago #23
Yup! Nanjeanne 10 hrs ago #5
OP link doesn't work for me. I found another link by searching with a line from your OP: chia 10 hrs ago #6
I see that "liberals" is in quotes. Interesting. niyad 9 hrs ago #9
As someone who avoids facebook, I thank you. eShirl 9 hrs ago #10
Perhaps the time has come for the Dems to have their MAGA moment. Bumbles 9 hrs ago #7
Big difference between excusing bad behavior and celebrating it nuxvomica 9 hrs ago #13
Could you please link to the part where he expressed contrition niyad 8 hrs ago #17
According to NYT reporting he did nuxvomica 8 hrs ago #18
One would think they would actually quote him on something so niyad 8 hrs ago #19
Some quotes nuxvomica 8 hrs ago #20
"Stupid stuff" ?? Okay then. niyad 8 hrs ago #21
What are his progressive plans for women's issues? MorbidButterflyTat 4 hrs ago #26
I just voted for Graham Platner mainer 9 hrs ago #12
Thank you! Emile 9 hrs ago #14
Best of luck taking back your state - TBF 8 hrs ago #16
Thanks! Let's nail Susan Collins to the wall. mr715 8 hrs ago #22
hear, hear! LAS14 9 hrs ago #15
Kick mainer 6 hrs ago #24
If only they had shown the same compassion towards Hillary... W_HAMILTON 4 hrs ago #25
This is not about Hillary and I am pretty sure all of du voted for Hillary questionseverything 4 hrs ago #27
It is because a lesson trying to be taught now is one that should hand been learned a decade ago. W_HAMILTON 3 hrs ago #29
Let it go. 2016 isn't 2026 mr715 18 min ago #31
I was so furious at the candidacy of Sen. Sanders in 2016... mr715 16 min ago #32
Secretary Clinton won Maine. mr715 28 min ago #30
Who is rob.gardner.399? MorbidButterflyTat 4 hrs ago #28

ariadne0614

(2,208 posts)
1. A worthy perspective. Gardner's credentials are impressive.
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 07:03 AM
11 hrs ago

Here’s a snippet regarding the NYT article:

If you got about a thousand men together in a stadium somewhere and asked them “Have any of you ever been an asshole in your life?” I am afraid, everybody who was honest would say “yes”.

mainer

(12,629 posts)
2. This is why I don't believe people who claim "of course I knew it was a Totenkopf!"
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 07:35 AM
10 hrs ago

It seems everyone claims to be a WWII historian.

I have to make a post about Graham Platner. First of all, that stupid tattoo. I have made three films about the holocaust, looked at more than 5,000 still photographs of the Holocaust in the German national archive in Koblinz, spent two weeks in the photo archive at Yad Vashem in Israel looking at thousands of photographs, did a 90 minute PBS special about the French resistance against the Nazis, and I have an entire book about German military uniforms and I did not recognize his tattoo as an SS Totenkopf insignia when I first saw it. The actual Totenkopf insignias are small and silver, and when I saw the large black version on Platner’s chest I did not recognize it. I wish I had a dollar for every tattoo I ever saw that was a bad choice.

Emile

(43,807 posts)
11. Thankfully people are catching on to their despicable behavior, and supporting the progressive.
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 08:45 AM
9 hrs ago

dalton99a

(95,838 posts)
3. While Republicans nominated Ken Paxton for the Senate
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 07:43 AM
10 hrs ago

and the rapist felon is ruling the world

chia

(2,845 posts)
6. OP link doesn't work for me. I found another link by searching with a line from your OP:
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 08:22 AM
10 hrs ago
I have to make a post about Graham Platner. First of all, that stupid tattoo. I have made three films about the holocaust, looked at more than 5,000 still photographs of the Holocaust in the German national archive in Koblinz, spent two weeks in the photo archive at Yad Vashem in Israel looking at thousands of photographs, did a 90 minute PBS special about the French resistance against the Nazis, and I have an entire book about German military uniforms and I did not recognize his tattoo as an SS Totenkopf insignia when I first saw it. The actual Totenkopf insignias are small and silver, and when I saw the large black version on Platner’s chest I did not recognize it. I wish I had a dollar for every tattoo I ever saw that was a bad choice.

But really, and most important, what this guy is about is challenging the very foundations of American politics and economics, which favor the corporations and the rich and leave the working Americans behind. The same message as Bernie Sanders and AOC. This message is very threatening, not just to republicans, but to many main stream democrats as well. His genuine talent as a retail politician is truly remarkable and if American politics is going to change we need guys like this. People love him and Maine voters are going to make him their nominee, and he will probably beat Susan Collins.

As for the piece in the New York Times, whose shocking reveal is that ex-girlfriends are not always the best character references—especially if they are republican operatives—I just think it is shabby journalism. Not a word about his policies, which are the entire reason the guy is running and why Mainers are supporting him, no matter what bullshit is thrown at him. If you got about a thousand men together in a stadium somewhere and asked them “Have any of you ever been an asshole in your life?” I am afraid, everybody who was honest would say “yes”.
So let’s just keep our eye on the ball. If you are a liberal democrat, or better yet, a progressive democrat, you should be grateful that this guy and his long suffering wife are willing to stand out in the force 10 shitstorm being directed at them in order to make America a better place for working people.

And for all the “liberals” clutching their pearls in horror over this guy’s behavior or background, just ask yourself whether you want to have a democratic senator in Maine (and maybe a democratic senate) and a new force in American politics that is less worried about what Yale graduates think and more worried about what the majority of Americans thinks. We are lucky to have this guy in the race.


The post was in this FB group but as a non-FB user I can't find a link to share it:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/813782883637272/




Bumbles

(550 posts)
7. Perhaps the time has come for the Dems to have their MAGA moment.
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 08:30 AM
9 hrs ago

Trump represented change for his followers. It seems Platner may offer the same for Dems and the establishment.

nuxvomica

(14,333 posts)
13. Big difference between excusing bad behavior and celebrating it
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 09:06 AM
9 hrs ago

MAGA celebrates and encourages bad behavior. Platner is contrite about his faults while MAGA are proud of theirs.

niyad

(134,716 posts)
17. Could you please link to the part where he expressed contrition
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 09:36 AM
8 hrs ago

for his comments about women? I obviously missed it.

nuxvomica

(14,333 posts)
18. According to NYT reporting he did
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 09:43 AM
8 hrs ago
In the months since then, despite a barrage of headlines about inflammatory remarks Mr. Platner made about women online years ago — remarks for which he has apologized — the candidate went on to have a stunning rise to become the presumptive Democratic nominee in one of the nation’s marquee Senate races.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/30/us/politics/graham-platner-maine-senate-texts.html

mainer

(12,629 posts)
12. I just voted for Graham Platner
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 09:05 AM
9 hrs ago

So did everyone in my family. Now we wait. Hoping to see the results around 8:30 PM.

TBF

(37,494 posts)
16. Best of luck taking back your state -
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 09:35 AM
8 hrs ago

we are hoping to do the same here in Texas.

LAS14

(15,565 posts)
15. hear, hear!
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 09:15 AM
9 hrs ago

"the piece in the New York Times, whose shocking reveal is that ex-girlfriends are not always the best character references"

Yeah!! Would every person in the country who has an ex who found them "disturbing" please raise their hand?????

W_HAMILTON

(10,479 posts)
25. If only they had shown the same compassion towards Hillary...
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 01:42 PM
4 hrs ago

But, no, she had actually been fighting for us pretty much her entire life, therefore she was derided as """establishment""" and not deserving of some people's vote IN THE GENERAL AGAINST DONALD TRUMP that now plead for votes for a much more flawed candidate in a primary against other Democrats who would do just as good a job, if not better, then Platner.

questionseverything

(12,112 posts)
27. This is not about Hillary and I am pretty sure all of du voted for Hillary
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 01:56 PM
4 hrs ago

So join us today please and try and get us a democratic majority

That is all

W_HAMILTON

(10,479 posts)
29. It is because a lesson trying to be taught now is one that should hand been learned a decade ago.
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 03:28 PM
3 hrs ago

And again, PRIMARIES are being held today. This is exactly the time to make your case for and against candidates.

Once the candidate is selected, THAT is when everyone should let bygones be bygones.

I will bite my tongue when it comes to criticizing Platner if he is our nominee, but I damn sure will be reminding certain folks that they better be showing the same sort of compassion to every Democrat running in the general as Platner's biggest supporters expected that we show him in the primary.

mr715

(4,645 posts)
32. I was so furious at the candidacy of Sen. Sanders in 2016...
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 06:13 PM
16 min ago

I harbored a lot of blame and resentment. After a lot of wringing my hands and gnashing my teeth I realized that it isn't about what was "owed" Sec. Clinton and perhaps part of the problem was the perception of being "owed".

Bernie Sanders didn't cost Sec. Clinton the election - Donald Trump did. With the help of James Comey.

mr715

(4,645 posts)
30. Secretary Clinton won Maine.
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 06:01 PM
28 min ago

Pretty sure she did.

I don't know why you'd bring up Mrs. Clinton here unless you were relitigating the 2016 primary... or perhaps the 2008 primary?

I can't tell.

Is this perhaps about Sen. Sanders?

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,890 posts)
28. Who is rob.gardner.399?
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 01:59 PM
4 hrs ago

The musician, the producer or the Mormon artist? Maybe the drummer for Guns N' Roses?

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