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It appears our Government is lying to us about the Iran war... (Original Post) spanone 2 hrs ago OP
Oh My! malaise 2 hrs ago #1
I know, it's SHOCKING!!!! spanone 2 hrs ago #2
We are at a place in time where we can no longer believe or trust in the government. How sad. Katinfl 2 hrs ago #3
I believe and trust the current administration... sindri 1 hr ago #11
Well, can anybody identify any clear lies the Iranians have told since Trump started bombing? Bluetus 32 sec ago #24
Or... the Iranians are gaslighting? There is no way we can know. Srkdqltr 2 hrs ago #4
That's my response as well EdmondDantes_ 1 hr ago #6
Time will tell Kaleva 1 hr ago #7
Here's my take, which is speculation based on the track record in this sorry mess: Martin Eden 42 min ago #18
Our Government Lying? Timewas 2 hrs ago #5
I know, amazing. Srkdqltr 1 hr ago #8
The governmennt lying, death, taxes. You get it. twodogsbarking 1 hr ago #9
When it is more prudent to believe a spokesman for the Iranian regime... Martin Eden 1 hr ago #10
The Trump administration lied? Ray Bruns 1 hr ago #12
"It appears our Government is lying to us about....." PatSeg 1 hr ago #13
That would be a very, very short list. state of stupid 34 min ago #20
Absolutely PatSeg 19 min ago #21
*--* Gasp! *--* lastlib 1 hr ago #14
Yup. Their lips were moving... Martin68 1 hr ago #15
As there's no real or measurable benefit otherwise, I'll presume Torchlight 1 hr ago #16
NO! SergeStorms 1 hr ago #17
The Iranians are telling truth. Our piece of s___ Republicans are LYING ! dave99 37 min ago #19
Ya Think? MineralMan 17 min ago #22
trmp has proven that he is the most prodigious liar of all times. spanone 9 min ago #23

Katinfl

(937 posts)
3. We are at a place in time where we can no longer believe or trust in the government. How sad.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 08:40 AM
2 hrs ago

sindri

(74 posts)
11. I believe and trust the current administration...
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 09:46 AM
1 hr ago

to always lie and act only in their own self-interest especially if it involves cruelty to others.

Bluetus

(3,265 posts)
24. Well, can anybody identify any clear lies the Iranians have told since Trump started bombing?
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 11:03 AM
32 sec ago

It is not wise to trust anybody with a vested interest in anything. But practically everything Trump has said since the beginning of this "excursion" has been a lie. I am trying to recall any similar lies that have come from the Iranians.

Srkdqltr

(10,123 posts)
4. Or... the Iranians are gaslighting? There is no way we can know.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 08:41 AM
2 hrs ago

Just have to believe the side you trust. Oh ✋️ wait we can't trust either side.

EdmondDantes_

(2,266 posts)
6. That's my response as well
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 09:10 AM
1 hr ago

When all sides are known liars, it's best to not trust any of them.

Martin Eden

(16,034 posts)
18. Here's my take, which is speculation based on the track record in this sorry mess:
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 10:21 AM
42 min ago

Readmission of inspectors was discussed as a possibility during current negotiations, but no actual agreement or protocols were reached at this time.

Vance is lying because the administration is desperate to show that Iran is making concessions. The Iranian spokesman is factually correct, but not telling the whole story.

Diplomatically, Vance claiming the concession has already been made when it has not, makes the concession less likely.

Trump sent amateurs to handle extremely difficult negotiations, and he handicaps them with lies, insults, and unhinged vascillating rhetoric which includes threats that violate the MOU -- actually threatening the lives of the negotiators.

The whole world sees this. It's painful to think about the depth and breadth of harm to America's reputation, and how long it may take to earn respect and trust again.

Martin Eden

(16,034 posts)
10. When it is more prudent to believe a spokesman for the Iranian regime...
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 09:42 AM
1 hr ago

... than the Vice President speaking on behalf of the President of the United States, it is time to change the regime here at home.

PatSeg

(53,980 posts)
13. "It appears our Government is lying to us about....."
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 09:48 AM
1 hr ago

Fill in the blank. Might be easier to just list what our government HASN'T been lying to us about.

Torchlight

(7,203 posts)
16. As there's no real or measurable benefit otherwise, I'll presume
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 09:55 AM
1 hr ago

Tehran's assertion accurate, and just one more tall tale from Mr. trump's habit of saying anything except the truth.

SergeStorms

(21,034 posts)
17. NO!
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 09:57 AM
1 hr ago

The Trump administration lied to us? 😭

Say it's not so, please!

What's the point of my life going on anymore?

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