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dalton99a

(96,349 posts)
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 09:05 AM 20 hrs ago

Why most Black Americans say they never fly the American flag, according to a new AP-NORC poll

https://apnews.com/article/poll-american-flag-patriotism-black-b66ff2a116643523eab6c670cc94a95d

Why most Black Americans say they never fly the American flag, according to a new AP-NORC poll
By COREY WILLIAMS, LINLEY SANDERS and SIMRAN PARWANI
Updated 7:40 AM CDT, June 30, 2026

DETROIT (AP) — Jerry Esters proudly displays the American flag each day on his Detroit home. A few miles away, Yvonne Pistochini says there is no scenario under which she would allow the Stars and Stripes to cast its shadow where she lives.

Both are Black.

For Esters, the flag represents the opportunities that allowed the great-great-grandson of slaves to find success and flourish. Pistochini, 79, simply says the America identified by the flag is not the same country she saw growing up.

Americans’ views of “Old Glory” are divided by politics, age and race, according to a new survey conducted by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research ahead of the nation’s 250th birthday celebration.

Republicans and older, white adults are especially likely to say they fly the American flag, while younger Democrats and Black adults are more likely to say they don’t fly it. Views of the flag — and whether it’s a unifying or divisive symbol — track with other deep divisions among Americans, who see their country’s history and accomplishments very differently.





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Why most Black Americans say they never fly the American flag, according to a new AP-NORC poll (Original Post) dalton99a 20 hrs ago OP
Well, an upside down mini flag with a "No Kings" sign seems appropriate... hlthe2b 20 hrs ago #1
Post removed Post removed 20 hrs ago #2
Or simply more politically performative. Torchlight 19 hrs ago #5
It's a popular piece of cloth with the racists in my area. Probably due to the "WHITE" stripes. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist 20 hrs ago #3
For some people the flag is a perverse symbol of white nationalist identity. Ocelot II 19 hrs ago #4
The main reasons why I, a Gulf War veteran, and a 3rd generation war veteran, do not fly the American flag, Aristus 19 hrs ago #6
I'd be interested to see an age breakdown Sympthsical 19 hrs ago #7
I stopped flying the American flag the day Dubya entered Iraq. Left it in my closet of the house I sold in 2020. sinkingfeeling 19 hrs ago #8
Never have flown the flag and I'm almost 70. Neither did my parents. Raftergirl 19 hrs ago #9
+1. They basically stole it from Chile dalton99a 18 hrs ago #11
Remember . . . Journeyman 18 hrs ago #12
😄 ouch! But there -are- 4 star Liberals in TX! electric_blue68 11 hrs ago #14
We display a 3x5' American flag along with a 3x5' Rainbow flag... QueerDuck 19 hrs ago #10
I fly the US flag and consider myself a patriot. Melon 18 hrs ago #13
Seeing how fast Civil Rights evaporated under Trump Kid Berwyn 11 hrs ago #15
The flag has largely been taken Bettie 11 hrs ago #16
I can't bring myself to fly a flag since 2016. maxsolomon 11 hrs ago #17

hlthe2b

(115,235 posts)
1. Well, an upside down mini flag with a "No Kings" sign seems appropriate...
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 09:13 AM
20 hrs ago

I have them inserted in my two blue planters with red and blue flowers, in the boxwood wreath on the door and the side planter with white flowers. I consider that an APPROPRIATE commemorative (not celebratory) display.

Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Torchlight

(7,267 posts)
5. Or simply more politically performative.
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 09:38 AM
19 hrs ago

"Men seem to be more patriotic"

Six of one, half a dozen of the other.

RedWhiteBlueIsRacist

(2,440 posts)
3. It's a popular piece of cloth with the racists in my area. Probably due to the "WHITE" stripes.
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 09:24 AM
20 hrs ago

Red blooded, white skinned blue bloods. Red, white and blue is racist! And what are the colors of Trump's costume???

Ocelot II

(131,871 posts)
4. For some people the flag is a perverse symbol of white nationalist identity.
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 09:33 AM
19 hrs ago

The best illustration of this that I've ever seen was a big US flag flying from one corner of the bed of a big ol' pickup, and a Confederate flag of equal size on the other. I wished I had some way of saying to the driver, "Dude, you really don't get it, do you?"

Aristus

(72,758 posts)
6. The main reasons why I, a Gulf War veteran, and a 3rd generation war veteran, do not fly the American flag,
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 09:50 AM
19 hrs ago

is because I don't want my neighbors thinking I'm a Trumpster.

Sympthsical

(11,320 posts)
7. I'd be interested to see an age breakdown
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 10:02 AM
19 hrs ago

Because it seems like flag flying in general is an older person thing.

As an old Millennial, flags just aren't a thing that exist in my world. Can't think of a single friend who bothers. I have one friend who has a pride flag draped along the railing of his patio, and that's about it.

Hell, the only flag pole in my entire neighborhood is an American and Marine flag, but the guy is a 50 year old ex-marine (who is a decent sort). A real estate person puts little flags at the end of everyone's lawn every July 4th with their card attached as advertising. It is the strangest thing. Whenever we see it, it's like aliens have landed. "Oh right, American flags are a thing."

Growing up in the burbs in the 80s and 90s, people did used to put them up for things like Memorial Day and July 4th. But it feels like that tradition has been dying out over the past 20 years. Or maybe my anecdotal is different because I moved from the Midwest to California.

sinkingfeeling

(58,261 posts)
8. I stopped flying the American flag the day Dubya entered Iraq. Left it in my closet of the house I sold in 2020.
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 10:07 AM
19 hrs ago

Will never own one agin.

Raftergirl

(1,915 posts)
9. Never have flown the flag and I'm almost 70. Neither did my parents.
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 10:20 AM
19 hrs ago

Very few flags in my town of 40k on peoples homes.

When we drove from Austin to San Antonio once I was shocked to see the Texas State flag effing everywhere. It was so cringe. Except for government buildings no one in NY flies the NYS flag.

QueerDuck

(2,246 posts)
10. We display a 3x5' American flag along with a 3x5' Rainbow flag...
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 10:21 AM
19 hrs ago

... on standard house-mounted brackets and poles. However with our American flag we also have a 4" x 60" black ribbon/banner attached at the top link. This is normally used to indicate "half-staff" on flags that cannot be physically lowered to a literal half-staff position.

I put it on our flag the day that Jimmy Carter died... and there it will remain until Trump dies.


(not our flag... just an example photo)

Kid Berwyn

(25,545 posts)
15. Seeing how fast Civil Rights evaporated under Trump
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 06:10 PM
11 hrs ago

I can’t blame anyone for not flying the flag, especially African Americans.

Bettie

(20,028 posts)
16. The flag has largely been taken
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 06:15 PM
11 hrs ago

as a MAGAt symbol.

Tattered flags blowing behind big ass trucks are a good clue that you are dealing with a moron behind the wheel, it's helpful to be able to identify idiots with anger issues and maga hats from a distance.

But I learned the flag code in school and it makes me a little annoyed to see that.

ETA: SO, yeah, I get why a lot of people don't fly it, particularly people who are Black (or any kind of not-white). It's a symbol of division these days.

maxsolomon

(39,459 posts)
17. I can't bring myself to fly a flag since 2016.
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 06:18 PM
11 hrs ago

Probably never will again.

I'd even installed a flag mount on the house when Obama was elected.

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