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Leah Litman - I cannot fucking believe that birthright was 5-4! (Original Post) In It to Win It 18 hrs ago OP
Per CNN it was 6-3. LisaL 18 hrs ago #1
5-4 on the 14th amendment protecting birthright citizenship. 6-3 on federal law protecting birthright citizenship In It to Win It 18 hrs ago #10
And someone probably has a case ready to go Bettie 16 hrs ago #17
Depends how you count Kavanaugh's flaky-ass concurrence 0rganism 16 hrs ago #16
Fucking SCARY fgor sure! bluestarone 18 hrs ago #2
Super Disturbing that there are 3 Justices on the court Ars Longa 18 hrs ago #14
Since it was 6-3, I can't fucking believe it was 5-4 either. MichMan 18 hrs ago #3
5-4 on the 14th amendment protecting birthright citizenship. 6-3 on federal law protecting birthright citizenship In It to Win It 18 hrs ago #7
Should be 9-0 Deuxcents 18 hrs ago #4
Agree Renew Deal 18 hrs ago #5
I'm wondering if Gorsuch is just there for the lulz... appmanga 14 hrs ago #26
Shouldn't have even dweller 18 hrs ago #6
There is something rotten here newdeal2 18 hrs ago #9
Just like dweller 18 hrs ago #11
It should have been 9-0, though I'd always assumed Alito and Thomas would dissent, Ocelot II 18 hrs ago #8
We *HAVE* to get the Heritage Foundation's influence and money out of SCOTUS. Initech 18 hrs ago #12
Rotten to the core and gleefully evil Sequoia 18 hrs ago #13
They are hostile to democracy, pro fascist billionaire. Initech 16 hrs ago #15
Have to; can't. maxsolomon 15 hrs ago #19
Couldn't we flip the House and Senate and get them out that way? Initech 15 hrs ago #21
Through Impeachment? maxsolomon 14 hrs ago #23
So there's no way to take back the courts from billionaire / Murdoch influnce unless by force? Initech 14 hrs ago #24
1. Control the Presidency and Senate until maxsolomon 14 hrs ago #27
Why ? There ARE 4 hardcore Republicans on Supreme Court dave99 15 hrs ago #18
Yeah but fuckhead and the Heritage Foundation will get to pick their replacements. Initech 14 hrs ago #25
A generation of for-profit hatred Torchlight 15 hrs ago #20
Tells you just how fragile our democracy is Mysterian 14 hrs ago #22

In It to Win It

(12,928 posts)
10. 5-4 on the 14th amendment protecting birthright citizenship. 6-3 on federal law protecting birthright citizenship
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 10:53 AM
18 hrs ago

Bettie

(20,028 posts)
17. And someone probably has a case ready to go
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 12:42 PM
16 hrs ago

tailored to have them overturn that amendment to the Constitution.

Or maybe they'll come for women's right to vote....either, way, they are definitely going to try to overturn the pieces of the Constitution they don't like.

Lucky for us the court moves at the speed of a glacier, so they might not get to it very quickly, or they'll just invalidate a few amendments on the shadow docket.

NOTE: Feeling very not positive about things today. Maybe tomorrow will be better.

0rganism

(25,770 posts)
16. Depends how you count Kavanaugh's flaky-ass concurrence
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 12:38 PM
16 hrs ago

Looks to me like he's against the 14th amendment version, but supports the federal statutes around it, which basically leaves a path for congress to remove birthright citizenship by making shitty laws.

Ars Longa

(676 posts)
14. Super Disturbing that there are 3 Justices on the court
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 11:22 AM
18 hrs ago

that are living in a Pre-Civil War mindset!!
Still.................Expand the SC to 13 Justices.

In It to Win It

(12,928 posts)
7. 5-4 on the 14th amendment protecting birthright citizenship. 6-3 on federal law protecting birthright citizenship
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 10:51 AM
18 hrs ago

Kavanaugh was the difference on the one vote.

Renew Deal

(85,485 posts)
5. Agree
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 10:50 AM
18 hrs ago

And if not 9-0, 7-2. There is no logical reason for Gorsuch to side with opponents of the constitution.

appmanga

(1,589 posts)
26. I'm wondering if Gorsuch is just there for the lulz...
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 02:57 PM
14 hrs ago

...in his concurrence re Samuels, he says the Court is probably giving the president too much power, but he goes along anyways. You can't do the mind-numbing legal gymnastics these folks perform without being bought and paid for.

newdeal2

(5,662 posts)
9. There is something rotten here
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 10:52 AM
18 hrs ago

They are eager to take up cases that have already been decided.

Ocelot II

(131,871 posts)
8. It should have been 9-0, though I'd always assumed Alito and Thomas would dissent,
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 10:52 AM
18 hrs ago

because they always do in cases of the people vs. Trump regardless of what the case is about, but Gorsuch was a bit of a surprise. Kavanaugh concurred in the judgment but dissented as to one of the reasons, so it was a 6-3 decision. I'll take it, though, and there will be more ketchup on the walls today.

Initech

(109,697 posts)
15. They are hostile to democracy, pro fascist billionaire.
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 12:34 PM
16 hrs ago

Fuck them all, especially Kevin Roberts (guy that wrote Project 2025 and most of fuckhead's illegal orders).

Initech

(109,697 posts)
24. So there's no way to take back the courts from billionaire / Murdoch influnce unless by force?
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 02:49 PM
14 hrs ago

Cause I'm all out of ideas!

maxsolomon

(39,459 posts)
27. 1. Control the Presidency and Senate until
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 03:10 PM
14 hrs ago

Alito, Thomas and Roberts are dead/retired.

2. Expand the Court to match the number of Federal circuits.

dave99

(678 posts)
18. Why ? There ARE 4 hardcore Republicans on Supreme Court
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 01:42 PM
15 hrs ago

Need 6 though to be permanently retired

Initech

(109,697 posts)
25. Yeah but fuckhead and the Heritage Foundation will get to pick their replacements.
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 02:50 PM
14 hrs ago

Torchlight

(7,267 posts)
20. A generation of for-profit hatred
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 02:13 PM
15 hrs ago

was willingly tuned into by millions of citizens every day. I think we're now peeling back the thin veneer and witnessing the most current results of our commercialized division.

Mysterian

(6,761 posts)
22. Tells you just how fragile our democracy is
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 02:26 PM
14 hrs ago

Four corrupt justices would allow a president to be king.

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