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dalton99a

(96,349 posts)
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 10:54 AM 19 hrs ago

If Trump gets to appoint more justices, birthright citizenship WILL be gone



Just like Roe v Wade

Precedent or the Constitution means nothing to this court





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If Trump gets to appoint more justices, birthright citizenship WILL be gone (Original Post) dalton99a 19 hrs ago OP
Depends on which justice ITAL 19 hrs ago #1
Alito just announced his retirement . Nt Fiendish Thingy 19 hrs ago #5
NPR retracted the story. Ocelot II 18 hrs ago #7
Unusual mistake for them Fiendish Thingy 18 hrs ago #8
Exactly Takket 17 hrs ago #12
But again, their replacements won't matter Fiendish Thingy 16 hrs ago #17
Who in the next two years? Melon 19 hrs ago #2
Only Boo1 19 hrs ago #3
It wouldn't be "better" if the replacement is considerably younger Totally Tunsie 16 hrs ago #18
Younger Boo1 15 hrs ago #20
Replacing Alito won't change the math on birthright citizenship Fiendish Thingy 19 hrs ago #4
Um, No. Wiz Imp 18 hrs ago #6
John Roberts is 71 standingtall 18 hrs ago #10
+1. It is utterly delusional to think birthright citizenship is safe dalton99a 17 hrs ago #11
Two of Trump's appointee's voted in favor of birthright citizenship Kaleva 17 hrs ago #14
No actually only one standingtall 15 hrs ago #19
Alito is not retiring him stepping down wont change the math on birthright citizenship standingtall 18 hrs ago #9
That's one of our anxieties 31j20b3 17 hrs ago #13
How do we hedge against that? Kaleva 17 hrs ago #15
we need to move US citizens against such opportunism by Trump 31j20b3 17 hrs ago #16

ITAL

(1,447 posts)
1. Depends on which justice
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 10:59 AM
19 hrs ago

The most likely to step down by all indications is Alito. That wouldn't change the makeup of the court (other than just to have a younger radical on it)

Fiendish Thingy

(24,529 posts)
8. Unusual mistake for them
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 11:34 AM
18 hrs ago

But I still think Alito and Thomas will retire before Trump’s term ends, and it will be before the end of this year if Dems retake the senate.

Takket

(23,873 posts)
12. Exactly
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 12:52 PM
17 hrs ago

I think they will both retire so drumpf can appoint “loose cannon” and that guy from Texas. Matthew something??? The guy the gop keeps filing all their cases in his court because he always rules in their favor.

Boo1

(643 posts)
3. Only
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 11:02 AM
19 hrs ago

If they are replacing one of the one who agreed. None of those are likely to leave soon.

If he repla es Thomas or Alito it literally wouldn't change anything. With those two it's as likely their replacement would be better for us.

Totally Tunsie

(12,241 posts)
18. It wouldn't be "better" if the replacement is considerably younger
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 01:50 PM
16 hrs ago

and would be sitting on the Court for decades. We and our children and grandchildren would be living with the ghost of chump through SCOTUS' decisions for way too long. It's not just the number of staunch conservative justices, but the length of their terms as well.

Boo1

(643 posts)
20. Younger
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 03:02 PM
15 hrs ago

But would they be as reliable as Alito and Thomas? Given that his picks are essentially hated by the right wing I think that's questionable.


Has Gorsuch been a more reliably conservative vote than Scalia?

Fiendish Thingy

(24,529 posts)
4. Replacing Alito won't change the math on birthright citizenship
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 11:03 AM
19 hrs ago

That would only happen if Barrett, Roberts or one of the liberal justices retire in the next two years.

Wiz Imp

(10,866 posts)
6. Um, No.
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 11:21 AM
18 hrs ago

Kagan, Sotomayor, Jackson, Barrett & Roberts aren't going anywhere. Unless one of them dies, the court will continue to have a majority that upholds birthright citizenship.

standingtall

(3,207 posts)
10. John Roberts is 71
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 11:54 AM
18 hrs ago

This Court is must be expanded period. There will be future attacks coming against birthright citizenship. Count on it. We shouldn't be think 2 to 4 years from now, more like 5 to 10 years from now and beyond. Birthright citizenship is not safe.

standingtall

(3,207 posts)
19. No actually only one
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 02:15 PM
15 hrs ago

Kavanaugh didn't vote to strike down Trump's executive order on constitutional grounds, but on the grounds of it violating federal law. So if Roberts is replaced with just one anti-birthright citizenship Judge and it gets back to the Court and is framed solely as a constitutional matter there is a good chance Kavanaugh changes his vote.

standingtall

(3,207 posts)
9. Alito is not retiring him stepping down wont change the math on birthright citizenship
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 11:51 AM
18 hrs ago

but it would be huge mistake to think birthright citizenship is safe. The fact is the Supreme came closer today think striking down birthright citizenship then it did in 1898 we it was 6-2 with one Justice not voting. Today it was 6-3 and 1 of those 6 Justices only voted against Trump's executive order on the grounds of federal law not the constitution so it was really 5-4. This Court opened the door to future attacks on birthright citizenship. What the losing side of the case is thinking right now is the Court just needs 2 moreJustices like Thomas,Alito and Gorsuch or maybe just one because of Kavanaugh's explanation for siding with the majority. This should be a clear message to Democrats especially centrist who have been reluctant and sometimes even hostile to expanding the Court get their head out of their behinds and face the reality this Court must be expanded the foundational bedrock rights of Americans are hanging on by the skin of their teeth and some rights aren't surviving this Court be willing to do what needs to be done or we want have a party anymore.

31j20b3

(139 posts)
16. we need to move US citizens against such opportunism by Trump
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 01:09 PM
17 hrs ago

Roberts and company do stick their wetted fingers into the wind to see where the wind is blowing

With suffiicient public clamor, an anti-birthright citizenship justice won't be added to the court by anyone

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