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(9,506 posts)The 'border' includes coastlines, not just the lines in the dirt between the US and Canada/ US and Mexico. Most people in our nation live within the 200 mile 'border zone' around the nation and are subject to stops, searches, and sometimes having your car basically taken apart by agents looking for smuggled people and/or contraband.
Have seen, with my own eyes, people left with their car seats and interior panels on the shoulder, trying to put their cars back together again after searches. It ain't pretty, and when the checkpoints are closed on specific days, like holidays, it's easy for actual smugglers to pick a time/place for their operations to go on unhindered.
It is to laugh AND cry.
Wounded Bear
(64,870 posts)PatSeg
(54,111 posts)always unnerved me and now it has become commonplace here. Absolutely chilling.
orthoclad
(5,242 posts)PatSeg
(54,111 posts)orthoclad
(5,242 posts)Gee, I just can't wait for us to get back to normalcy and moderation.
Dave says
(5,501 posts)Thought we might have a Nixon again, but I never thought Id see what we have today. Its enough to make a grown man cry.
orthoclad
(5,242 posts)and the balance of power. All sorts of goodies were on the table: expand the court, DC and PR statehood, etc. Instead we got "reaching across the aisle", normalcy, and that damned DA. Couldn't look "political" now. High road, ya know.
tblue37
(68,482 posts)come to the US.
LudwigPastorius
(15,295 posts)Farmer-Rick
(12,871 posts)Continues unchecked. Just wait until next year when pedo Trump is even more demented.
dave99
(678 posts)Blue Full Moon
(3,808 posts)I guess they were the pinko commies the whole time.
dave99
(678 posts)yardwork
(70,026 posts)You can rent a car in Spain and drive it into France and the only notification you'll get is Verizon sending you a text. "Welcome to France. Your international calling plan is in place."
No stops on the border. Nobody asking to see your passport if ID.
MAGAs have no idea how many freedoms we've lost compared to the rest of the world.
moonshinegnomie
(4,162 posts)however if you are within 100 miles of the border ICE can and does set them up. Ive been stopped many times in texas near the border.
WestMichRad
(3,529 posts)Some interior airports are regarded as international points of entry, with their own 100 mile border zones. The effect is to make most of the country within that 100 mile limit.
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(15,549 posts)EX500rider
(12,859 posts)Lonestarblue
(13,660 posts)What's next? Checkpoints at state borders where you need your show a birth certificate or passport? Both groups are little more than domestic terrorists.
LymphocyteLover
(10,446 posts)Moostache
(11,353 posts)The remedy is one of two things and neither is pleasant or optimal:
1) Blow up the Union and split this nation into city-states/urban centers and rural/land grants. The question of who gets the nukes is a thorny one, but I would rather die than see the MAGA crowd gain unfettered access to those weapons... if Iran can be denied nukes on the basis of religious fundamentalism and dangerous zealotry, well, that pretty much rules out ALL of MAGA for the same rationalization.
2) Wait for the worm to turn, take back Congress, investigate AND PROSECUTE every last Trump regime criminal (regardless of their pardon status from the pile of vomit in a bad suit and diapers). THEN stack SCOTUS, carve out a 180 filibuster exemption and repair the most egregious damage from Trump and this confederates. This time though, I want non-cooperating defendants hauled into court in chains and I want them shackled to the defendants table in court like Bobby Seals in Chicago...
What 100% CANNOT happen in ANY way is "moving on" and ignoring the travesty of the current time. Those responsible MUST be charged, tried, convicted and sentenced to the maximum penalty of law in ALL cases. From Trump down to the goons he pardoned, we need to re-establish legal CONSEQUENCES for law breaking and not just endless lawsuits and appeals and BS.