Trump's lawyer faces pushback early on in Supreme Court hearing on birthright citizenship

[Jilly_in_VA]

Source: Associated Press

The Supreme Court is taking up one of the term’s most consequential cases: President Donald Trump’s executive order on birthright citizenship, declaring that children born to parents who are in the United States illegally or temporarily are not American citizens.

An hour into the hearing, the lawyer for the Trump administration, Solicitor General D. John Sauer, is fielding skepticism from conservative and liberal justices alike.

Trump is in attendance, making him the first sitting president to attend oral arguments at the nation’s highest court.

The birthright citizenship order, which Trump signed on Jan. 20, 2025, the first day of his second term, is part of his Republican administration’s broad immigration crackdown.

Read more: https://apnews.com/live/supreme-court-birthright-citizenship-updates

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Birthright citizenship has been "settled law" for 114 years and now he wants to change it to suit himself? What about all those Russian mommies he brought over and put up in fancy hotels in Florida so they could have their babies under the US flaq and then go back to Russia? I bet nobody asks him about THEM...but I would.

[Harker]

1. I listened to the arguments.

I'm surprised I didn't hear Trumpsky snoring.

As a layman, my understanding of the proceedings was limited, but sufficient to make me doubtful that he understood any of it. He was probably only there to try to influence the ruling.

[GiqueCee]

2. The Orange Gargoyle...

... does not have the power to unilaterally negate a Constitutional Amendment. He's just showboating... again.
However, the current SCOTUS majority is so corrupt that there's no telling which way they'll rule. I would think that, even in their insulated bubble of alternate reality, they must maintain some semblance of self-preservation. Giving Trump a victory of this obscene magnitude should virtually assure their eventual impeachment.
Well hell, I can dream, can't I?

[Volaris]

3. Is trump bleating his way through this, or did Roberts have the good sense to take his phone away from him?

[Mblaze]

4. Barron Trump was born to a citizen of Slovenia.

[twodogsbarking]

5. The elephant in the room.

Apologies to Pachyderm

[BaronChocula]

6. Short-Fingered Vulgarian showed up for nothing

But he probably still thought everything went his way.

[ihaveaquestion]

7. I listened to most of the SC arguments and then reread Kraznov's XO and...

I don't think anyone sufficiently addressed the obvious flaw in the XO as I read it... The 14th uses the phrase "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof " and then proceeds to exclude all children of non-citizens as if they are not "subject to the jurisdiction" of the U.S. Lots of talk around domiciles and allegiance, but nothing on whether U.S. jurisdiction applies.

This makes no sense to me - aside from diplomats, how the heck does U.S. jurisdiction not apply to non-citizens?

[rzemanfl]

8. During World War II the U.S. essentially kidnapped

Japanese people living in South America and held them in the U.S. against their will in internment camps. Children born to those people were considered U.S. Citizens. This is argued in an amicus brief. Rachel Maddow covered it Monday night.

[ChicagoTeamster]

9. If the Epstein files reveal that Trump bought Melania from Uncle Jeffrey, how will that affect her status?

If she was here under fraudulent circumstances, does it nullify her marriage and thus her citizenship? and Trump's pre-nup terms? And Melania's crypto? Would Barron still be a citizen or would Trump have to adopt him? Would Trump keep Barron and send Melania back to Slovenia with her parents?

[Delmette2.0]

10. Thank you for reminding everyone.

Of that scheme. I think he was making a lot of money selling houses to the husbands so the women had places to live until they gave birth.

[question everything]

11. John Eastman used the same line when he claimed that Kamala Harris was not a citizen

because when she was born her parents were here on student visas.

[Jilly_in_VA]

12. Actually, all of Shitler's progeny EXCEPT Tiffany

were born to mothers who hadn't yet achieved citizenship. DEPORT THEM FIRST!