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Uncle Joe

(64,082 posts)
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 12:35 AM Friday

Epstein's Brother Blows Up White House's Story on Trump's Innocence

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“The president was never in his office,” said Steven Cheung, the White House communications director, in July.


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As part of his attempts to minimize his relationship with Epstein, who died by suicide while awaiting trial in 2019, the White House claimed this summer that Trump had never been in the financier’s workplace on Madison Avenue in New York. “The president was never in his office,” said Steven Cheung, the White House communications director, in July.

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However, Epstein’s own brother, Mark, told The New York Times in a report published Thursday that the future president “was in the office all the time back then.”

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The office on Madison Avenue, according to Epstein aides from that era, served as the venue for disturbing sexual phone calls between the president and his friend that sometimes drew in innocent bystanders.

A former assistant to Epstein recalled that, when all the other colleagues had gone home, the financier would put Trump, then a well-known businessman but not yet a TV star, on speakerphone so the assistant could hear their locker room talk. Trump would then reportedly regale Epstein with his sexual conquests as the financier enjoyed the fact that it made his female employee visibly uncomfortable.

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/epsteins-brother-blows-up-white-houses-story-on-trumps-innocence/
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cliffside

(1,580 posts)
1. Link to full NYT article - 'Don's Best Friend': How Epstein and Trump Bonded Over the Pursuit of Women
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 01:30 AM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/18/us/jeffrey-epstein-donald-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.908.BlAH.oMvdrvXAcC6b&smid=url-share

By Nicholas Confessore and Julie Tate

"The Times interviewed more than 30 former employees of Jeffrey Epstein, victims of his abuse and others who crossed paths with Mr. Epstein and President Trump. The Times also obtained new documents that illuminate their relationship..."

... Beginning in the late 1980s, the two men forged a bond intense enough to leave others who knew them with the impression that they were each other’s closest friend, The Times found. Mr. Epstein was then a little-known financier who cultivated mystery around the scope and source of his self-made wealth. Mr. Trump, six years older, was a real estate scion who relished publicity and exaggerated his successes. Neither man drank or did drugs. They pursued women in a game of ego and dominance. Female bodies were currency.

Over nearly two decades, as Mr. Trump cut a swath through the party circuits of New York and Florida, Mr. Epstein was perhaps his most reliable wingman. During the 1990s and early 2000s, they prowled Mr. Epstein’s Manhattan mansion and Mr. Trump’s Plaza Hotel, at least one of Mr. Trump’s Atlantic City casinos and both their Palm Beach homes. They visited each other’s offices and spoke often by phone, according to other former Epstein employees and women who spent time in his homes.

With other men, Mr. Epstein might discuss tax shelters, international affairs or neuroscience. With Mr. Trump, he talked about sex..."




SunSeeker

(57,441 posts)
2. No, Daily Beast, it's not "locker room talk." It's sexual harrassment of the female employees.
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 01:39 AM
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BurnDoubt

(1,372 posts)
3. ...And maybe...
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 02:02 AM
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"is said to have died by suicide” might be more accurate, owing to how convenient it was (for lots of people)..

AZ8theist

(7,055 posts)
12. ALLEGEDLY died by "suicide"....
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 05:10 PM
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If we had an actual JD in this country, I bet the story would be much different.

barbtries

(31,096 posts)
13. i believe
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 06:48 PM
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that krasnov was not only a customer, but a partner. The financials if they are ever exposed and disentangled, according to my theory, will make this very clear.

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