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marmar

(80,431 posts)
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 08:43 AM 2 hrs ago

Texas Republicans may regret mandating Bible in classes


Texas Republicans may regret mandating Bible in classes
Debating Christianity in class will likely create more non-believers

By Amanda Marcotte
Senior Writer
Published July 1, 2026 6:45AM (EDT)


(Salon) The decades-long Republican quest to force Christianity on those they see as unwashed heathens reached a new low on June 26, when the GOP-controlled Texas State School Board put Bible stories on mandatory reading lists for every level of public school student. The decision is disturbing on many levels, starting with the outright disinformation being used to justify this move by people in charge of educating children.

“Our nation was founded as a Christian nation,” board member Brandon Hall insisted during a Thursday news conference.

It’s unclear if Hall is lying or has deluded himself, but there is no excuse for indulging this falsehood about the founders, who clearly forbade the “establishment of religion” in the Constitution and repeatedly emphasized separation of church and state. It’s no surprise where this is coming from, either. The school board hired David Barton, a discredited writer who falsely claims to be a historian, as an adviser. Barton has no training and less than zero credibility, having been caught repeatedly peddling easily disproved lies. But because Republicans are pleased by his intellectually dishonest interpretation of America’s past, they continue to choose his nonsense over actual history developed by real scholars.

This is Christian nationalism in a nutshell. The use of Barton by the GOP and the Texas State School Board is not about faith or belief; it’s about power. Specifically, it’s about pushing their belief that certain people — white right-wing Christians — are the “real” Americans. In practice, it means that everyone else deserves second-class status. Forcing kids to read Bible passages signals to anyone outside the white, evangelical tribe that they don’t belong, which is a grotesque violation of American values of equality and freedom.

It’s also likely to backfire on the religious right. They better hope that the kids skip the assigned reading, much less actual discussion and debate about it in class. As many an ex-evangelical can tell you, direct exposure to what the Bible actually says is often the first step to walking away from Christian fundamentalism altogether. ................(more)

https://www.salon.com/2026/07/01/texas-republicans-may-regret-mandating-bible-in-classes/






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no_hypocrisy

(55,785 posts)
1. And has Texas selected WHICH parts of the Bible should be "taught"
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 08:49 AM
2 hrs ago

in public schools? Old Testament? New Testament? Both? Book of Revelations?

Song of Solomon
Mutual Praise of Bodies (Chapters 4 & 7): The lovers extensively admire each other's physical beauty. The man describes the woman's belly as a "heap of wheat" and her breasts as "like two fawns". The woman playfully compares the man to a fragrant apple tree, noting that his legs are "pillars of marble set on bases of pure gold".

Sensual Metaphors (Chapter 4:16 - 5:1): The lovers compare their intimate acts to a private, fertile garden filled with spices. The man says, "I have gathered my myrrh with my spice; I have eaten my honeycomb with my honey; I have drunk my wine with my milk". This is frequently interpreted as metaphorical descriptions of oral sex and physical ecstasy.

Intoxicating Kisses (Chapter 1:2-4, 7: 9): The woman is unabashed about her desire for her lover, opening the book by asking for a kiss, stating that his love is "more delightful than wine". Later, she speaks of their kisses as gliding "smoothly over lips and teeth".

The "Garden" of Love (Chapter 7:11-12): The lovers invite each other away to the countryside and vineyards, where the woman promises, "There I will give you my love".

no_hypocrisy

(55,785 posts)
6. Pity . . . . .
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 09:59 AM
1 hr ago

What about Lot's daughters getting him drunk and then committing biblical incest? (An Oldie but a Goodie)

jmbar2

(8,279 posts)
2. So many brilliant teaching opportunities!
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 08:56 AM
2 hrs ago

You could create a behavioral checklist of the 10 and score current politicians, particularly the ones who pushed so hard for these laws. Debate individual commandments where there is no consensus = does he/she, or doesn't s/he and why do you think that.

Then look at biblical punishments for violations. What should be punishments for violating each commandment?



ToxMarz

(3,196 posts)
4. I don't think their intent on mandating the Bible in class has any room for thoughtful student debate
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 09:49 AM
1 hr ago

on the matter. That's not how indoctrination works.

Wiz Imp

(10,868 posts)
8. I'd be in favor of making this required listening/viewing
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 10:22 AM
52 min ago

https://meettheresidents.fandom.com/wiki/Wormwood
The Bible
The word Bible means "book". In about 100 C.E. Christian scholars collected writings about the prophet, Jesus of Nazareth. Selecting certain texts, eliminating others, they canonized what is now the New Testament. This they combined with the Hebrew Bible, the Old Testament, to give a historical and philosophical context for their new teaching.

While the Old Testament introduces us to the Israelite God, YHWH, as a dark figure bringing death whenever he appears, Jesus revolutionized the concept of God as a father figure.

All Bibles are translations of translations of no longer existing original writings and, unavoidably, reflect the politics and religious prejudices of the organization paying the cost of the translation.

Today, many narrow-minded people wield the Bible as some sort of razor with which to slash their enemies. Allowing those people to decide what is important in the Bible is dangerous to the freedom of individual thought. Though some of the Bible is abysmal and boring, much of it is entertaining and important reading.

The Residents have tackled this book in all its complexity without the responsibility of the scholar. Though many months have gone into research, the intent of the music and lyrics remain within the realm of the inspired poet.

The stories and ideas represented here are definitely in the Bible. The desire is to neither vilify nor sanctify the book, but to allow it to be humanized. For the Bible to be looked upon as spiritually uplifting is good and useful, but that view overlooks the Bible's abundant images of plague, torture and cruelty. It is this dichotomy that gives balance and substance to the book. Without both, the dark and the light, there is no measure of either, only the bland reassurances that pass for organized religion today.

- Uncle Willie[Note 1]


Background of the songs frrom the studio album.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormwood:_Curious_Stories_from_the_Bible
"In the Beginning" - (2:57) is about the creation of the Earth and is entirely instrumental. (Genesis 1-3)
"Fire Fall" - (3:34) is about Lot escaping from Sodom and watching his wife turn to salt. (Genesis 19)
"They Are the Meat" - (2:40) is about Ezekiel's visions whilst he is forced to eat only bread and sleep on his side. (Ezekiel 4:4-15, 8-11)
"Melancholy Clumps" - (1:48) is about Noah building the Ark. (Genesis 6-8)
"How to Get a Head" - (4:05) tells us the tale of Salome requesting the head of John the Baptist. (Mark 6:17-29)
"Cain and Abel" - (3:34) tells us the story of the jealous Cain killing his brother Abel. (Genesis 4)
"Mr. Misery" - (2:19) is about Jeremiah and his suffering. (Jeremiah, Lamentations)
"Tent Peg in the Temple" - (2:54) is about the killing of Sisera. (Judges 4-5)
"God's Magic Finger" - (2:41) is about the story of King Belshazzar. (Daniel 5)
"Spilling the Seed" - (2:44) is about the story of Onan. (Genesis 38)
"Dinah and the Unclean Skin" - (2:52) is about the story of Dinah. (Genesis 34)
"Bathsheba Bathes" - (2:52) is about King David and Bathsheba. (2 Samuel 11)
"Bridegroom of Blood" - (4:57) is about Moses being attacked by God and his wife Zipporah intervening by performing circumcision on their baby. (Exodus 4:24-26)
"Hanging by His Hair" - (2:33) tells us the story of Absalom and his death. (2 Samuel 13: 20-30, 16: 20-22, 18: 9-15)
"The Seven Ugly Cows" - (2:34) is about Joseph and his visions. (Genesis 39-41)
"Burn, Baby Burn" - (2:59) tells us the story of Jephthah sacrificing his daughter. (Judges 11:31-40)
"KILL HIM!" - (2:39) is the story of God telling Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac and gives us an insight into his possible thoughts. (Genesis 22)
"I Hate Heaven" - (2:50) is based on the Song of Solomon. (The Song of Solomon)
"Judas Saves" - (3:55) is told from the point of view of Judas Iscariot. This song proposes that Judas's betrayal of Jesus was necessary so that people could have their sins forgiven. It also proposes that Judas had been told by God to do so. (Compare the theories put forth by the protagonist of Jorge Luis Borges' short story "Three Versions of Judas", and the Gospel of Judas.) (Mark 14:17-46)
"Revelation" - (5:38) is an instrumental inspired by the Book of Revelation, chapters 4-22. (Revelation 4-22)

3catwoman3

(30,243 posts)
13. Wouldn't it be fun to don your Harry Potter invisibility cloak...
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 11:01 AM
13 min ago

...and watch that discussion?

3catwoman3

(30,243 posts)
12. Wheaton College, in Wheaton IL, is extremely fundamental...
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 11:00 AM
14 min ago

...and declares right on their main web page that they believe Adam and Eve to be the founding parents of the entire human race.

They have a large biology department with extensive course offerings. I often wished I could ask one of their bio faculty members to explain how Adam and Eve could have founded the whole human race without committing incest with their children and their children doing likewise with each other. Where did the women their sons married come from?

The reason I know about Wheaton is because of soccer. Our sons both played soccer at Carthage College, which is in the same athletic conference as Wheaton. It used to piss me off when the Wheaton team would gather all the players to the center of the field after a game to participate in a prayer circle. They did this at both home and away games. If that's what you want to do on your own campus, OK, fine, if you must. At an away game, keep it to yourself. Very presumptuous.

TexLaProgressive

(12,851 posts)
15. Just so you know I am a Catholic and believe that what the idiots in charge of my state are doing is wrong
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 11:07 AM
7 min ago

Here is what I weaned out of the large list of possible recommended reading most of which are fiction, non fiction, fables and mytthology.
Grade 3 - Luke 10:29-37 ICB - International Children’s Bible- Good Samaritan
The Road to Damascus - evidently a State of Texas publication
Grade 4 - Genesis 6  -21, 7:6-10, 17-20. 8:1-4, 8-10,15-19 ICB The floood
Grade 6 - Matthew 6:25-34 ESV English Standard Version Do not worry about your life
Grade 7 - 1 Corinthians 13 ESV Paul on love 
23rd Psalm KJV King James Version The Lord is my shepherd
Grade 8 - Matthew 5:1-12 KJV Beatitudes
English I - 1 Samuel 117 NIRV New International Readers VersionDavid and Goliath
Lamentations 3 NIRV Suffering of the prophet and his people
English II - Genesis 1:1-9 NIRV Beginning of the 1st creation story
English III Ecclesiastes 3 KJV There is a time...
English IV - Job Chapters 1-7, 11, 14, 19,28, 38-42 NIRV Much of the book of Job

Trueblue Texan

(4,716 posts)
16. My 13-year old granddaughter sobbed when she heard about this.
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 11:11 AM
3 min ago

Later that day my daughter told me they will likely be moving to Colorado or Washington next year

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