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sop

(19,935 posts)
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 12:43 PM 16 hrs ago

'I Hope F-35s Don't Need Radar, Because They're Being Delivered Without Any'

"At a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing last week, the U.S. Marine Corps admitted that it had taken possession of six brand-new Lockheed Martin F-35B Lightning II stealth fighter jets. That would normally be routine were it not for one, small detail: none of them had radars. This is the first official confirmation of an issue that has been brewing for months. In brief, the new F-35s are the first of the upgraded Block 4 models, which are supposed to be the most advanced and powerful fighters ever built. A major part of that is a new, cutting-edge radar system. The only trouble is that those radars won't actually be finished for another two years. So Lockheed just went ahead and delivered the rest of the plane. Radars aren't useful in wars, right?"

"You might be wondering why, in the meantime, the Marine Corps (and soon, Air Force and Navy) doesn't just put the old radars into the new planes. Hey! You can't use common sense like that, this is the military! As the War Zone points out, the actual mounts within the F-35's nose are only designed for the new AN/APG-85 systems, not the older AN/APG-81 systems. That means that all Block 4 models are stuck waiting for the new radars to finish. And if development of those things gets delayed for any reason, well, they'll just have to wait even longer. Just what a well prepared military force wants to hear."

"So, what exactly will these new F-35s be getting instead of fancy new radars (or any radars at all)? Not to worry: you'll be pleased to learn that America's brave pilots will be getting... ballast. Yes, ballast. Because the nose is actually too light to fly properly without the radar inside, you see."

Continued at link:

https://www.jalopnik.com/2204511/f35-fighter-jets-being-delivered-without-radar/

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Attilatheblond

(9,506 posts)
1. Seems possible Lockheed Martin has come up with a new business plan to sell more F-35s?
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 01:07 PM
16 hrs ago

Not enough weight in the nose to fly well? No #@%)@#! RADAR? How many pilots/jets could we lose due to half-assed response to military needs? Will we just buy more jets if/when there are lost jets due to OOOPS, couldn't install radar?

wyn borkins

(1,654 posts)
2. We Be Stealthy
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 01:08 PM
16 hrs ago

So

They can't see (us)
And
We can't see them

Ballast in the nose
And
Ballast as balance

Six stealthies
May
You not get deep 6'ed

erronis

(25,039 posts)
4. Worth its weight in gold.
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 02:55 PM
14 hrs ago

SNAFU

Can't let those poor MIC folks go without a paycheck.

ECL213

(472 posts)
5. I heard all of the electronics need to be charged with a Lightning charger, too.
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 03:01 PM
14 hrs ago

Is that true?

MLAA

(19,863 posts)
7. I'm not up on military aviation requirements but I wouldn't take delivery of a new car that was missing major
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 03:01 PM
14 hrs ago

safety features. Can someone kindly explain why they were accepted?

dave99

(678 posts)
8. " the War Zone points out, the actual mounts within the F-35's nose are only designed for the new AN/APG-85 systems,
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 03:20 PM
14 hrs ago

not the older AN/APG-81 systems."

Seems no one ever heard of Air Field Engineers.

Making repairs since 1941

2naSalit

(104,967 posts)
9. Between this debacle...
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 03:51 PM
13 hrs ago

And the 'kill switch' BS, I hope all proposed buyers opt out. Nobody should buy these things from us with these incomplete and tainted machines.

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