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karynnj

(60,577 posts)
21. I would contest that she had the most consequences
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 03:02 PM
Sep 26

Bill Clinton and through him the country paid a very high price.

For Clinton personally, it means that though he was a successful two term President, it unfortunately will likely be the case that most mainstream obituaries will mention the scandal and that he was impeached. By his own account, he for at least some period of time nearly lost his marriage. He had some in his administration leave.

For the country and the world, his transgression may have cost Gore the Presidency. Consider that Bush, who had drinking problems until he was 40 ran on bringing decency back to the White House - even as he ran against Eagle Scout Gore. It has since then likely made his strong voice less compelling to some who were not Democrats.

I think what he did was stupid and beyond wrong. However, both of them were adults and it apparently started when she flashed her thong. What still surprises me is that this did not lead to her immediate removal for inappropriate behavior. It does suggest that Clinton's closest people may have seen this as a Clinton norm.

It also seems that had she wanted, she could have dropped her first name in favor of her middle name, changed her hair style, color etc and gone about applying for jobs or higher education. She seems to have often used that short period of her life to be a media person etc. She did not have that many accomplishments when the scandal happened. Her internship happened because her stepdad was a big donor.

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Remembering Lewinsky drmeow Sep 26 #1
Lewinsky was no Anita Hill and not a victim of any sort. valleyrogue Sep 26 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author quaint Sep 26 #20
Lewinsky was a victim mr715 Sep 26 #26
If I recall she made it her mission to have her "encounter" with Bill Clinton. CentralMass Sep 26 #33
Bill Clinton is batman smart. mr715 Sep 26 #36
Bill was was also a "dog". CentralMass Sep 26 #37
Yup mr715 Sep 26 #39
Part of a long history of Blaming the Victim multigraincracker Sep 26 #2
Lewinsky Is Not RobinA Sep 26 #22
I think there are a lot of 24 year old females capable of making poor decisions mr715 Sep 26 #30
But most of us didn't spend the rest of our lives capitalizing on it. Biophilic Sep 26 #34
Given the chance, I'm sure many people would mr715 Sep 26 #35
Setting her sights on one man Oeditpus Rex Sep 26 #59
You think she'd be framed any differently? mr715 Sep 26 #60
Which news broadcast Oeditpus Rex Sep 26 #61
It certainly was subtext. As it is here. mr715 Sep 26 #62
Where does one find 'subtext' in a news report? Oeditpus Rex Saturday #64
This message was self-deleted by its author mr715 Saturday #66
it's utterly ridiculous Skittles Sep 26 #49
I so agree with you. llmart Sep 26 #55
they're consenting adults but they are both disgusting Skittles Sep 26 #56
Linda Tripp included in that disgusting behavior also. llmart Sep 26 #57
Linda Tripp AND Lucianne Goldberg exploited oasis Saturday #65
Not that I'm excusing Bill, but... Happy Hoosier Sep 26 #3
She was a groupie. She took after her mother. valleyrogue Sep 26 #5
I was, and did... Happy Hoosier Sep 26 #7
Evidence he was a "horndog" other than the GOP smears valleyrogue Sep 26 #9
Gennifer Flowers, Elizabeth Gracen, Dolly Browning, and Sally Perdue EdmondDantes_ Sep 26 #14
Bill Clinton has a long history of cheating, it wasn't a slip up EdmondDantes_ Sep 26 #11
Shame on you. The impeachment was political bullshit. So is piling on Lewinsky. marble falls Sep 26 #47
Yes. obnoxiousdrunk Sep 26 #51
It Was RobinA Sep 26 #23
The Big Dog nt mr715 Sep 26 #31
I hope people aren't buying what she is trying to sell. valleyrogue Sep 26 #4
Her flashing her thong at him as an invitation for a "relationship." badhair77 Sep 26 #6
People need to remember those inconvenient details and tell the younger generation valleyrogue Sep 26 #8
She actually went back to DC to become an intern valleyrogue Sep 26 #10
Most 5 year olds know that it is inappropriate to show your underwear... 3catwoman3 Sep 26 #50
Yes, she had a show that was planned for release around 2016/2017 JI7 Sep 26 #19
Monica and her "presidential knee pads", as I recall bagimin Sep 26 #13
I find it hilarious the way people still go to bat for Bill Clinton's personal reputation, myself. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 26 #15
It's Not Going To Bat RobinA Sep 26 #25
Looks like Clinton was the obnoxiousdrunk Sep 26 #53
Well, many of the replies in this thread are appalliing obamanut2012 Sep 26 #16
+1 (I am not surprised, though) demmiblue Sep 26 #27
Right? mr715 Sep 26 #28
HUGELY appalling. marble falls Sep 26 #48
it's pretty simple Skittles Sep 26 #58
I can't think of anything more pressing in today's world. BannonsLiver Sep 26 #17
THANK YOU Skittles Sep 26 #52
History was made by a blue dress and a naughty lady. Ping Tung Sep 26 #18
I would contest that she had the most consequences karynnj Sep 26 #21
A lot of dead Iraqis because of her SamuelTheThird Sep 26 #24
Gore probably would have won. mr715 Sep 26 #29
Hey I'm a life long snowybirdie Sep 26 #32
Actually, she hit on Clinton. PragmaticLiberal Sep 26 #41
Okay snowybirdie Sep 26 #54
Clinton was totally wrong Traildogbob Sep 26 #38
It was more than 1 beej mr715 Sep 26 #40
You are right Traildogbob Sep 26 #42
You may remember the gross cigar story. mr715 Sep 26 #43
I do! Traildogbob Sep 26 #44
Ooof mr715 Sep 26 #45
Hillary had to compete with Monica. Laura had to compete with Jeff Gannon. Melania is still competing, but weakly. Norrrm Sep 26 #46
The MAGAt Republicans MorbidButterflyTat Sep 26 #63
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