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57. Paul Krugman's very fine comments on this:
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 09:12 AM
Wednesday

"War still requires extraordinary courage from the men and women engaged in combat — courage that, according to officers I’ve spoken with, is rooted in a sense of honor, not swaggering machismo. Combatants also have to be physically fit enough to endure incredible hardship.

But they don’t have to look like bodybuilders — and anyway, only a small fraction of a modern army engages directly in combat. These days, war is conducted largely with machines and ranged weapons, and most of an army’s personnel are employed, one way or another, keeping those machines and weapons in action and providing the intelligence that makes them effective. These noncombatants are every bit as essential to victory as front-line troops.

Actually, this has been true for a long time, at least since World War II. I very much doubt that Hegseth would consider the team led by Alan Turing, which broke Germany’s Enigma code, or the group led by Joseph Rochefort, which broke Japan’s naval code, warriors — even leaving aside the fact that Turing was gay. Yet they contributed as much to victory as any front-line soldier.

And the “warrior ethos” Hegseth touts is even less sufficient, on its own, to win wars today."

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WHAT?!?!? NCDem47 Tuesday #1
Define "lethality" haele Tuesday #10
The way he describes things, the phrase War Crimes comes to mind Hekate Tuesday #24
In the syndicate, they refer to it as "making bones." John1956PA Tuesday #34
Saw a few clips of Hegseth-the-Crusader saying "fat" generals are no longer acceptable. I bet they are all ticked for Silent Type Tuesday #2
All levels. Didn't someone claim to be in the military as CIC? karynnj Tuesday #41
"No more fat troops!..." regnaD kciN Wednesday #55
Does golf count? newdeal2 Tuesday #3
PT every day qazplm135 Tuesday #4
Will traitor in chief lead by example! SheltieLover Tuesday #5
I'd like to see him drop down and give us twenty Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Tuesday #17
I'd like to see him drop down and give us one... 3catwoman3 Tuesday #30
He couldn't even manage the "drop down" part, unless it was only his pants. niyad Tuesday #42
Eewwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 3catwoman3 Tuesday #49
Remember, folks, that's a guy who. . . DinahMoeHum Tuesday #32
Me too, Yo! SheltieLover Tuesday #45
YOU'RE ALL TOO FAT usonian Tuesday #6
Do they think that this is going to attract new troops to sign up? Bev54 Tuesday #7
PT every day? haele Tuesday #8
NEXT: SOW Hegseth requires a daily report from every general to explain why they shouldn't be fired. dalton99a Tuesday #9
Aesthetics is a Nazi thingy Champp Tuesday #11
Yep. They'd rather have good looking troops than intelligent, competent troops. tanyev Tuesday #12
Strategy is out, lethality is in Renew Deal Tuesday #13
Whenever I see his "do" I am reminded of the George Clooney character in "Oh Brother where art thou" question everything Tuesday #14
Dapper Dan or Fop? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Wednesday #50
I think Dapper Dan. Is this, was this, a real product? question everything Wednesday #58
MaddowBlog-Why Pete Hegseth's pitch to generals and admirals was even worse than expected LetMyPeopleVote Tuesday #15
"...no more overbearing rules of engagement." Ilsa Tuesday #19
Fuck the Geneva Conventions, right? Ocelot II Tuesday #38
He's obviously never done hot yoga GenThePerservering Tuesday #16
Whiskey Pete doing hot yoga? The back-alley stench of dumpster bourbon Maru Kitteh Tuesday #18
I expect that if physical standards are indeed raised, as long as they're not Wiz Imp Tuesday #20
Going by sheer numbers, I would say that would be true Kaleva Tuesday #31
He doesn't want any women in the military. niyad Tuesday #44
Steroids for breakfast lame54 Tuesday #21
Does that include throwing axes at drummers? Coventina Tuesday #22
The only thing Hegseth and I agree on is that everyone in the military should meet a PT standard Buckeyeblue Tuesday #23
I agree Kaleva Tuesday #29
I hope Rebl2 Tuesday #25
Generals are not in field combat any longer. Irish_Dem Tuesday #26
Probably need the stamina to put in very long hours and still think clearly Kaleva Tuesday #27
For their hands so they can hold the sharpies longer... ananda Tuesday #35
Well, I don't doubt that Kegbreath has done thousands of 8-ounce curls over the years . . . hatrack Tuesday #28
Maybe he needs it to handle a skateboard... ananda Tuesday #36
Or an axe . . . hatrack Tuesday #39
Hand curled around an 8 oz beer glass? niyad Tuesday #47
The very same - 12 oz and 16 oz options also available . . . hatrack Tuesday #48
OK, Pistol Pete Jilly_in_VA Tuesday #33
Why is Hegseth so focused on soldiers looking buff and handsome? Irish_Dem Tuesday #37
POS drunkard is pushing for a way to kick women out of the military. valleyrogue Tuesday #40
He's also trying to push out African-American men. GoCubsGo Wednesday #54
Will he be watching? Sounds kind of kinky. Ping Tung Tuesday #43
Sounds like a great use of taxpayer money! We'll be unbeatable at the next early 20th century style land war! meadowlander Tuesday #46
North Vietnam beat our big, strong, masculine military mainer Wednesday #51
Actually they didn't Kaleva Wednesday #52
You're saying we were victorious in Vietnam? mainer Wednesday #56
Who asked for this bullshit? Iris Wednesday #53
Paul Krugman's very fine comments on this: mainer Wednesday #57
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