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haele

(14,722 posts)
37. They're more comfortable. They feel more entitled.
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 10:49 AM
Oct 4

There are a lot of people who start going MAGA after they leave hardship. There's a line from one of Laz's favorite song about neuro-divergancy and struggling to fit in.
"If I hadn't seen such riches, I could live with being poor"
You talk to a MAGA, and even when you bring out the teachings of their supposed Religious Mascot, it always comes up that they're terrified of having to give up any of their stuff, any of their comfortable lifestyle - to people they don't know and might be undeserving.
Doesn't matter if their parent came over and only got citizenship via Reagan's Amnesty. Doesn't matter if they used Johnson's Great Society programs, or the most successful Socialist Meritocracy organization in the World to advance into Middle Class (the US. Military)....
They got theirs, they won't give up a dollar to help anyone else if it might cause any inconvenience to them or the friends they aspire to hang out with.
On edit - even my SIL, who is one of those "sweet as pie" Small Town Christians who fancy themselves to not be racist because they have black friends an co-workers - and works for a Disability program...decided not to vote this time at all instead of vote for Harris, because the Democrats would increase her household taxes to unsupportable and force States to allow undeserving people to get State taxpayer money or resources (Free food, housing, phones, utilities, and addiction services) to support their bad habits even if they break the Law under some sort of "Equal Rights" concept that just spoils them.

She actually believes (and is afraid) that Democrats will eventually force her household to give some of their property to the State to pay for homeless, druggies/mentally unstable, or otherwise "not American" poor foreigners to take over the US workforce and culture - making life harder for her, while making life easier for them.

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I fully blame Krasnov voters for everything superpatriotman Oct 4 #1
I totally agree Abstractartist Oct 4 #7
Kamala Harris was "too over the top"?! MIButterfly Oct 4 #23
Again Abstractartist Oct 4 #45
No, Kamala is a black female. Gimpyknee Oct 4 #51
And that's not one but TWO strikes. calimary Oct 4 #66
Exactly. They chose is TWICE. hamsterjill Oct 4 #28
They chose it THREE times, in most cases. nt Wednesdays Oct 4 #30
You're right. hamsterjill Oct 4 #32
I have been harassing a guy in my neighborhood Give Peace A Chance Oct 4 #34
I can forgive their 2016 vote but after J6? After the way he politicized the pandemic? No fucking way. CrispyQ Oct 4 #2
Yup, fuck all of them at this point! Initech Oct 4 #53
Makes sense 👍 TommieMommy Oct 4 #3
The orange one is a reflection of his voters. Their hate for Dems & Libs flows up from them and out through him. Hotler Oct 4 #4
I'm not convinced that immigrants are Democrats or liberals, they're just looking for a better life FakeNoose Oct 4 #19
And, a sizeable chunk of the immigrant community who are already here (notably Cubans,Venezualans), Ars Longa Oct 4 #74
Many of them didn't know what they were voting for MadameButterfly Oct 4 #5
I used to feel that way, but I've changed. yardwork Oct 4 #8
Everything you say is true MadameButterfly Oct 4 #11
I don't know. yardwork Oct 4 #15
First Rush Limbaugh, then Fox News, now internet bubble pattyloutwo Oct 4 #35
and meddling by Putin MadameButterfly Oct 5 #89
They're more comfortable. They feel more entitled. haele Oct 4 #37
This is so, so true. Zackzzzz Oct 4 #63
They are so afraid of free money MadameButterfly Oct 5 #94
They are falling for RW talking points MadameButterfly Oct 5 #90
The blue collar democrats in WV were coal miners. The cosl is Meadowoak Oct 4 #46
the movie Matewan dramatizes the 1920 struggles to unionize MadameButterfly Oct 5 #87
That's A Movie RobinA Oct 5 #98
They consume the propaganda, put forward by Murdoch and company, valleyrogue Oct 5 #95
I agree the low information voters have been fooled into believing a pack of lies Martin Eden Oct 4 #31
Exactly MadameButterfly Oct 5 #88
Do not start denigrating Democrats. llmart Oct 4 #43
I agree that Democrats MadameButterfly Oct 5 #91
they knew exactly the who/what/why they voted for Trump... agingdem Oct 4 #69
A lot of these people will only learn if they suffer MadameButterfly Oct 5 #92
Trump voters are inbred bigots... agingdem Oct 5 #96
I'm sure they mean to be voting in their own interests MadameButterfly Oct 6 #100
they have access to the same information we all do Skittles Oct 4 #85
I'm not giving them an award for critical thinking MadameButterfly Oct 5 #93
I live in Texas, I know plenty of them Skittles Oct 5 #97
i agree with you about many (most?) MAGAs but MadameButterfly Oct 6 #99
I agree. yardwork Oct 4 #6
THIS!!! !!! !!! calimary Oct 4 #54
They are dumber than dumb and nasty hateful people. Get a brain, morans! Dave Bowman Oct 4 #9
Great minds think alike JustAnotherGen Oct 4 #10
The ciritcal problem with authoritarianism MadameButterfly Oct 4 #12
Well.... it's not just the Trump voters. The "leave-it-blank" folks (and those who promoted it)... QueerDuck Oct 4 #13
Very important point for anti-Trump activists RandomNumbers Oct 4 #38
Um. No. SSJVegeta Oct 4 #14
We gave them a viable and clearly better alternative. yardwork Oct 4 #16
Oh please Keepthesoulalive Oct 4 #39
Sorry, none of them will get any love from me. I can't/won't do it Meadowoak Oct 4 #47
I used to think that, but now, I think they know EXACTLY what they're doing ecstatic Oct 4 #59
Given the conistecy of both their action as well as reactionsm, that seems rather naive. Torchlight Oct 4 #67
They couldn't lift a finger to inform themselves after TEN FUCKING YEARS of this idiot and his entourage . . . . hatrack Oct 4 #68
How did they miss this, and how was that not enough? RandomNumbers Oct 4 #72
My general reply to the replies: SSJVegeta Oct 4 #73
Please stop bringing up Dr. King Keepthesoulalive Oct 4 #81
NOPE Skittles Oct 4 #79
Hear, Hear Mr. Bateman! As an aside we've been watching Black Rabbit and HOLY SHIT AZJonnie Oct 4 #17
You should do a commericial. I will watch. Ozark was great. Great that he speaks out. twodogsbarking Oct 4 #20
Let's just say I'd be surprised to hear of any Ozark fan not welcoming this show with open arms AZJonnie Oct 4 #26
I was thinking of watching. Swede Oct 4 #21
You might want to cross post that in the Netflix/Streaming forum if you haven't already. llmart Oct 4 #44
Someone else already mentioned it in that forum a little bit ago AZJonnie Oct 4 #48
Also responsible: smug, ignorant "both sides are the same" types not fooled Oct 4 #18
I Knew A Guy Like That ProfessorGAC Oct 4 #70
Well, a LOT of them didn't seem to 'realize' what they were 'voting for'...... Jack Valentino Oct 4 #22
Exactly. Joinfortmill Oct 4 #24
He didn't "REDUCE PRICES ON DAY ONE"--- so they ought to Jack Valentino Oct 4 #25
Or we can keep ranting and raving at democrats. BootinUp Oct 4 #27
Waiting for a guest to make Joe Rogan own Johonny Oct 4 #29
77 million Americans. People I can never trust. CaptainTruth Oct 4 #33
Absolutely! Owl Oct 4 #36
They always pretend to not know about these things ecstatic Oct 4 #40
Cowards who won't admit they love such things done to people they irrationally hate. paleotn Oct 4 #42
I remember I had an exchange with a wingnut dipshit last year on like reddit or X or something AZJonnie Oct 4 #57
Exactly! ecstatic Oct 4 #60
Trump voters are the scum of the earth paleotn Oct 4 #41
Swede........... Upthevibe Oct 4 #49
Hell YAS!!! It's about time. Envirogal Oct 4 #50
I've been calling out his voters since 2016! Initech Oct 4 #52
The ones who didn't vote at all are just as complicit. GoCubsGo Oct 4 #55
Yes and yes. My local NPR station in Chicago was begging for donations this morning, funding was cut Beringia Oct 4 #56
While he has criticized Trump recently this is another false attribution meme. BannonsLiver Oct 4 #58
Is there any evidence of him saying this? fujiyamasan Oct 4 #61
No. I can't find these quotes. He did speak about Trump voters insulating themselves from facts underpants Oct 4 #65
No. See my OP here: demmiblue Oct 4 #71
I thought r/leopardseatingfaces was a thing sakabatou Oct 4 #62
If they did it for Jesus, don't even try. It is always the ONLY way. CTyankee Oct 4 #64
🛑 ❌ Folks, there's no proof he said these quotes ❌🛑 underpants Oct 4 #75
I have come to the conclusion that a lot of people simply do not care if something is accurate or not. n/t demmiblue Oct 4 #76
Nah.. I can do both. Cha Oct 4 #77
I wonder if he has said that to his sister? BlueKota Oct 4 #78
Thats what i was wondering too 🤔 Raine Oct 5 #86
I've loved Jason Bateman since the 1980's synni Oct 4 #80
right? Skittles Oct 4 #83
love him Skittles Oct 4 #82
Kick BlueWaveNeverEnd Oct 4 #84
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