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59. I used to think that, but now, I think they know EXACTLY what they're doing
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 12:36 PM
Oct 4

And who they voted for.

Half of tRump's voters are out and proud, the other half try to hide their vote because they know they supported someone evil and it's socially unacceptable.

I put it like this: I think about how I'd handle things if someone confronted me about something Biden allegedly did. First, if I had not heard of that particular action, I'd verify the claim through a credible source. Then, if it's true, I would either explain why the action was necessary, or, if I didn't support the action, I would agree with the opinion that it was not a good move.

It's the complete opposite when it comes to tRump voters. If you confront them with the truth, they play all sorts of games: The closeted half gets to escape accountability entirely. The half that is willing to admit they voted for trump will lie, deny, deflect, gaslight or play ignorant--never taking responsibility.

I've been thinking about this topic more now that I'm working with more trumpets. One lady had the nerve to bring up supporting tRump and said he's cleaning up this country. I felt like she was intentionally trying to trigger me. Why would you bring up tRump in a professional setting? So I simply said, trump should release the epstein files. Her response was to start naming all these people who are supposedly in the epstein files - she named Beyonce, and a number of other black celebrities. 🙄 I said, I don't give a damn who's in the files, just release them so that all of them can be held accountable. Whoever they may be. She said something to the effect of all politicians and Hollywood actors are pedophiles. Huh?

It was a weird and disturbing argument she was making. But it's clarifying. Just say that you don't give a fuck that trump's a pedophile rapist who is openly obstructing justice for the victims. Don't spout bullshit about everyone else doing the same thing because that's not true. If it were true, then they should be held accountable too, whether I'm a fan of theirs or not. It's that simple.

Another trumper, an immigrant himself, had the nerve to say that trump is only going after and deporting violent criminals. Despite being a major eLoon fanboy, this is a smart guy who is aware of a lot of breaking news. How is it that he's well informed about all these other topics but he conveniently doesn't know about troops being deployed on American streets? He also claims to not know about the scandal where tRump tried to steal votes in Georgia. And we live in Georgia! GMAFB!

If you listen closely to trumpers, resentment always starts to spill out in conversation. They start slowly slipping in "innocent" comments about different groups of people - the Indians, the Arabs, the Mexicans, etc. I'm black, so they won't mention "the blacks" when talking to me. 🙄 They know how to adjust their talking points for the room they're in.

Even non-white trump supporters have the same type of grievances and in conversation you'll notice that they frequently stereotype people by race and country of origin. It's a major part of their ideology.

So, no, I don't believe these are people who are innocent victims of a conman. These are people who are full of resentment, envy, and anger towards their fellow Americans and immigrants. They enjoy the suffering that we're all witnessing. As long as it's not them, they're fine with it.

As far as the best way to get them out of the cult? I'm not sure. The only thing that works with these people is when they are personally under attack. That's when they see the light.

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I fully blame Krasnov voters for everything superpatriotman Oct 4 #1
I totally agree Abstractartist Oct 4 #7
Kamala Harris was "too over the top"?! MIButterfly Oct 4 #23
Again Abstractartist Oct 4 #45
No, Kamala is a black female. Gimpyknee Oct 4 #51
And that's not one but TWO strikes. calimary Oct 4 #66
Exactly. They chose is TWICE. hamsterjill Oct 4 #28
They chose it THREE times, in most cases. nt Wednesdays Oct 4 #30
You're right. hamsterjill Oct 4 #32
I have been harassing a guy in my neighborhood Give Peace A Chance Oct 4 #34
I can forgive their 2016 vote but after J6? After the way he politicized the pandemic? No fucking way. CrispyQ Oct 4 #2
Yup, fuck all of them at this point! Initech Oct 4 #53
Makes sense 👍 TommieMommy Oct 4 #3
The orange one is a reflection of his voters. Their hate for Dems & Libs flows up from them and out through him. Hotler Oct 4 #4
I'm not convinced that immigrants are Democrats or liberals, they're just looking for a better life FakeNoose Oct 4 #19
And, a sizeable chunk of the immigrant community who are already here (notably Cubans,Venezualans), Ars Longa Oct 4 #74
Many of them didn't know what they were voting for MadameButterfly Oct 4 #5
I used to feel that way, but I've changed. yardwork Oct 4 #8
Everything you say is true MadameButterfly Oct 4 #11
I don't know. yardwork Oct 4 #15
First Rush Limbaugh, then Fox News, now internet bubble pattyloutwo Oct 4 #35
and meddling by Putin MadameButterfly Oct 5 #89
They're more comfortable. They feel more entitled. haele Oct 4 #37
This is so, so true. Zackzzzz Oct 4 #63
They are so afraid of free money MadameButterfly Oct 5 #94
They are falling for RW talking points MadameButterfly Oct 5 #90
The blue collar democrats in WV were coal miners. The cosl is Meadowoak Oct 4 #46
the movie Matewan dramatizes the 1920 struggles to unionize MadameButterfly Oct 5 #87
That's A Movie RobinA Oct 5 #98
They consume the propaganda, put forward by Murdoch and company, valleyrogue Oct 5 #95
I agree the low information voters have been fooled into believing a pack of lies Martin Eden Oct 4 #31
Exactly MadameButterfly Oct 5 #88
Do not start denigrating Democrats. llmart Oct 4 #43
I agree that Democrats MadameButterfly Oct 5 #91
they knew exactly the who/what/why they voted for Trump... agingdem Oct 4 #69
A lot of these people will only learn if they suffer MadameButterfly Oct 5 #92
Trump voters are inbred bigots... agingdem Oct 5 #96
I'm sure they mean to be voting in their own interests MadameButterfly Oct 6 #100
they have access to the same information we all do Skittles Oct 4 #85
I'm not giving them an award for critical thinking MadameButterfly Oct 5 #93
I live in Texas, I know plenty of them Skittles Oct 5 #97
i agree with you about many (most?) MAGAs but MadameButterfly Oct 6 #99
I agree. yardwork Oct 4 #6
THIS!!! !!! !!! calimary Oct 4 #54
They are dumber than dumb and nasty hateful people. Get a brain, morans! Dave Bowman Oct 4 #9
Great minds think alike JustAnotherGen Oct 4 #10
The ciritcal problem with authoritarianism MadameButterfly Oct 4 #12
Well.... it's not just the Trump voters. The "leave-it-blank" folks (and those who promoted it)... QueerDuck Oct 4 #13
Very important point for anti-Trump activists RandomNumbers Oct 4 #38
Um. No. SSJVegeta Oct 4 #14
We gave them a viable and clearly better alternative. yardwork Oct 4 #16
Oh please Keepthesoulalive Oct 4 #39
Sorry, none of them will get any love from me. I can't/won't do it Meadowoak Oct 4 #47
I used to think that, but now, I think they know EXACTLY what they're doing ecstatic Oct 4 #59
Given the conistecy of both their action as well as reactionsm, that seems rather naive. Torchlight Oct 4 #67
They couldn't lift a finger to inform themselves after TEN FUCKING YEARS of this idiot and his entourage . . . . hatrack Oct 4 #68
How did they miss this, and how was that not enough? RandomNumbers Oct 4 #72
My general reply to the replies: SSJVegeta Oct 4 #73
Please stop bringing up Dr. King Keepthesoulalive Oct 4 #81
NOPE Skittles Oct 4 #79
Hear, Hear Mr. Bateman! As an aside we've been watching Black Rabbit and HOLY SHIT AZJonnie Oct 4 #17
You should do a commericial. I will watch. Ozark was great. Great that he speaks out. twodogsbarking Oct 4 #20
Let's just say I'd be surprised to hear of any Ozark fan not welcoming this show with open arms AZJonnie Oct 4 #26
I was thinking of watching. Swede Oct 4 #21
You might want to cross post that in the Netflix/Streaming forum if you haven't already. llmart Oct 4 #44
Someone else already mentioned it in that forum a little bit ago AZJonnie Oct 4 #48
Also responsible: smug, ignorant "both sides are the same" types not fooled Oct 4 #18
I Knew A Guy Like That ProfessorGAC Oct 4 #70
Well, a LOT of them didn't seem to 'realize' what they were 'voting for'...... Jack Valentino Oct 4 #22
Exactly. Joinfortmill Oct 4 #24
He didn't "REDUCE PRICES ON DAY ONE"--- so they ought to Jack Valentino Oct 4 #25
Or we can keep ranting and raving at democrats. BootinUp Oct 4 #27
Waiting for a guest to make Joe Rogan own Johonny Oct 4 #29
77 million Americans. People I can never trust. CaptainTruth Oct 4 #33
Absolutely! Owl Oct 4 #36
They always pretend to not know about these things ecstatic Oct 4 #40
Cowards who won't admit they love such things done to people they irrationally hate. paleotn Oct 4 #42
I remember I had an exchange with a wingnut dipshit last year on like reddit or X or something AZJonnie Oct 4 #57
Exactly! ecstatic Oct 4 #60
Trump voters are the scum of the earth paleotn Oct 4 #41
Swede........... Upthevibe Oct 4 #49
Hell YAS!!! It's about time. Envirogal Oct 4 #50
I've been calling out his voters since 2016! Initech Oct 4 #52
The ones who didn't vote at all are just as complicit. GoCubsGo Oct 4 #55
Yes and yes. My local NPR station in Chicago was begging for donations this morning, funding was cut Beringia Oct 4 #56
While he has criticized Trump recently this is another false attribution meme. BannonsLiver Oct 4 #58
Is there any evidence of him saying this? fujiyamasan Oct 4 #61
No. I can't find these quotes. He did speak about Trump voters insulating themselves from facts underpants Oct 4 #65
No. See my OP here: demmiblue Oct 4 #71
I thought r/leopardseatingfaces was a thing sakabatou Oct 4 #62
If they did it for Jesus, don't even try. It is always the ONLY way. CTyankee Oct 4 #64
🛑 ❌ Folks, there's no proof he said these quotes ❌🛑 underpants Oct 4 #75
I have come to the conclusion that a lot of people simply do not care if something is accurate or not. n/t demmiblue Oct 4 #76
Nah.. I can do both. Cha Oct 4 #77
I wonder if he has said that to his sister? BlueKota Oct 4 #78
Thats what i was wondering too 🤔 Raine Oct 5 #86
I've loved Jason Bateman since the 1980's synni Oct 4 #80
right? Skittles Oct 4 #83
love him Skittles Oct 4 #82
Kick BlueWaveNeverEnd Oct 4 #84
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