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In reply to the discussion: They're going to die. [View all]

W_HAMILTON

(9,602 posts)
56. A distinction without a difference in the vast majority of cases.
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 03:45 PM
Saturday

For traditional Medicare to be most effective and cost-efficient, you need supplemental insurance.

If you start on traditional Medicare when you are eligible and sign up for a supplemental plan, I believe you cannot be turned down, your premiums are based on your age, and future premium increases are also tied to your age (rather than how sick you are/how much you utilize the insurance).

Contrast that with a Medicare Advantage plan, where once you are on it, you are most likely on it for life because you CAN be turned down if you switch back to traditional Medicare and try to buy a supplemental plan then. Your medical history will be used against you and even if you are the healthiest person on the planet, you are at least 65+. Think it was tough buying a plan on the individual market when you were in your 40s? Imagine that, but being aged 70, 80, etc. and almost assuredly with some health conditions that will result in you being considered a high risk.

I have dealt with this intimately twice now, when I was a caregiver for my mom and then when I helped my sister get connected with a Medicare broker to assist her in signing up.

DO NOT SIGN UP FOR MEDICARE ADVANTAGE.

Sure, it has a lot of added perks and other bells and whistles and seems great -- until you actually really need to use it. Like when someone has a stroke and they are in no shape to leave the skilled nursing facility they are currently in, but AI at a for-profit insurance company decided it's time to kick them out. Then you are left being a 24/7 caregiver for a bedbound stroke victim that can't do anything on their own.

No non-medical professional is ready for that and the last few months of my mom's life were made so much more difficult and stressful than they should have been. End-of-life is going to be tough regardless, but Medicare Advantage turned it into a nightmare.

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They're going to die. [View all] applegrove Friday OP
This news is coming at a bad time for the Klarkashton Friday #1
But also not a bad time b/c it comes before Midterm Elections. no_hypocrisy Friday #2
That's a forever time away these days. Klarkashton Friday #15
Right before the election, Trump will declare that his beautiful Tariff Plan has left the US with so much money, Marie Marie Saturday #46
I'm confused what plan she has Skittles Friday #3
Don't know. I can't figure out the US's medical system. applegrove Friday #4
well, believe me Skittles Friday #5
It's a "Medicare advantage " plan. James48 Friday #12
actually you CAN go back to regular Medicare Skittles Friday #13
You may have to do so during open enrollment soldierant Friday #31
Medicare "Advantage" is a huge scam Skittles Saturday #36
Should be retitled "Medicare Disadvantage". BattleRow Saturday #42
it's shouldn't have Medicare in the name at all Skittles Saturday #48
If intent on using Medicare,MedicareLESS would have been an option. BattleRow Saturday #49
MA Private insurance companies driven by profit kkmarie Saturday #52
more likely Skittles Saturday #54
In 2023, I was in the hospital and then rehab soldierant Saturday #63
They ARE scams BlueKentuckyGirl Saturday #55
yes that is another thing Skittles Saturday #64
Was just Rebl2 Saturday #41
A distinction without a difference in the vast majority of cases. W_HAMILTON Saturday #56
I talked a younger brother out of signing up for MA Skittles Saturday #60
Why is Medicare so confusing? bfoxmatt Saturday #61
that UH policy you have is likely a Medigap plan Skittles Saturday #62
Tell me about it! W_HAMILTON Saturday #65
I think she's a pre-65 senior NJCher Saturday #50
I had the same question TimeToGo Saturday #40
She could be a senior who is not yet MontanaMama Saturday #43
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Greed has overtaken governance and made the voters Mr.WeRP Saturday #58
I HATE, ABSOLUTELY HATE THIS WHOLE GAWD DAMN ADMINISTRATION!!!!!!! a kennedy Friday #6
I got a notice about two months ago dhol82 Friday #7
Sorry, that should be the medigap plan from United healthcare dhol82 Friday #8
On a Medigap plan, your copay should be fixed by the plan type when you bought it. n/t Ms. Toad Friday #16
Sorry to hear this... Bread and Circuses Friday #9
She implies she is on Medicare with an additional plan. applegrove Friday #11
She says "her share" is going up $1,000 per month HuskiesHowls Friday #28
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My plan D is set to increase $50 a month Auggie Friday #17
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