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Bernardo de La Paz

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36. maga before trump was leaderless but was manipulated (tea party). tRump captured them

Mon Oct 6, 2025, 07:44 PM

Oct 6

After tRump there are a hundred leaders. Everyone thinks they are an influencer or a force of nature or the true heir or they are just an opportunist seizing an opportunity for personal aggrandizement.

Epstein is not going away and it splits maga.

The pain of economic dislocation will not be fixed by tRump and the economy for the maga tier will continue to get worse with costs rising, especially health care and unemployment. All the wannabes will say "Only I can fix it" but by that point even half of maga will know the RepubliCons have conned them and will stay home.

RepubliCons will be in disarray for quite some time.

One of the hallmarks of a totalitarian dictator is that they keep all their potential heirs close by but in a tier very clearly defined as beneath them by some distance. All together but none are allowed to become too prominent. All are monitored and know they are monitored. Yes men don't step out of line; not even the bellhop with the mascara. So it will be very hard for any wannabes to get traction before or after the event.

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"No political movement will collapse faster than Republicanism the moment Trump is out of the picture." [View all] mahatmakanejeeves Oct 6 OP

More like MAGA-ism. GOPers will still be there n/t leftstreet Oct 6 #1

Very true. Where there's money to be made ruining the US mdbl Oct 6 #16

Billionaire backers will ALWAYS be there. There is no other party for them. They built this one & they own it. nt eppur_se_muova Oct 6 #21

No. There is too much money and power to be had for it to be tied to one person. Irish_Dem Oct 6 #2

That's interesting..... BigmanPigman Oct 6 #3

I was sure it would collapse when TSF leaves bronxiteforever Oct 6 #17

Collapse may be too strong a word, but I have no doubt the MAGA "movement" will be significantly weakened. Wiz Imp Oct 6 #19

Vance will certainly try. But if you've seen him buying donuts, you know how well that's going to work. eppur_se_muova Oct 6 #24

Yeah, like the collapse of the Reagan Revolution... Hugin Oct 6 #40

JD is owned outright by technocrat billionaire Theil. Tech-Bro Musk dismantled the government... Hekate Oct 6 #27

Timothy Snyder refers to "power ministries." And if shady vance knows he controls them, nothing will collapse, ancianita Oct 6 #32

There's still the underlying problem of the propaganda that led to this that need to be dealt with. Initech Oct 6 #4

Yep - that is a big problem - also people who don't pay attention to any political stuff. kerry-is-my-prez Oct 6 #6

Your math is off Fiendish Thingy Oct 6 #9

There are Greg_In_SF Oct 6 #13

Your numbers add up to over 400 million Fiendish Thingy Oct 6 #14

As long as the clueless get markodochartaigh Oct 6 #34

There is no one who has the evil charisma of Trump out there. kerry-is-my-prez Oct 6 #5

Looks at watch Marthe48 Oct 6 #7

It will be glorious Fiendish Thingy Oct 6 #8

We have some chance of the road to restoration bc no one has the "follow power" of drumphf electric_blue68 Oct 6 #10

Wishful thinking IbogaProject Oct 6 #11

There was MAGA before Trump Bluestocking Oct 6 #12

maga before trump was leaderless but was manipulated (tea party). tRump captured them Bernardo de La Paz Oct 6 #36

I thought that after W n/t hibbing Oct 6 #15

If the maga sheep find a shit-for-brains like Trump charismatic Mysterian Oct 6 #18

Magatology will endure WhatTheFlux Oct 6 #20

When Timothy Snyder talks, people should listen. I know I do. Hekate Oct 6 #22

So all that prep work J.D.'s been doing for Peter T. , Opus Dei, and the Heritage Cabal is for nothing? Ford_Prefect Oct 6 #23

It depends on how long Trump is in power nuxvomica Oct 6 #25

Well for whatever it's worth Hegseth is undermining *rump's Nobel Peace Prize chances and Uncle Joe Oct 6 #26

Okay sure. But I love sound of " Trump out of the picture" FailureToCommunicate Oct 6 #28

I won;t even guess. It could be as staid yet vicious as Moscow in '53 Torchlight Oct 6 #29

Have you seen markodochartaigh Oct 6 #35

Can't wait until he fucking dies. Orrex Oct 6 #30

Dr. Feelgood prescription for doing nothing? gulliver Oct 6 #31

When he's gone, the left will no longer trust government, and MAGA never did. bucolic_frolic Oct 6 #33

I agree that when TSF dies, it will be a huge blow to RETHUGS. I gotta wonder WHO will be their next leader? bluestarone Oct 6 #37

Disagree... it's the Party of grievance and hate. WarGamer Oct 6 #38

There's a world of difference between mega and republicanism, I think. Maru Kitteh Oct 6 #39