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In reply to the discussion: Mrs. Betty Bowers: JD VANCE: "My mother got the drugs that almost killed her from Mexicans." [View all]Hekate
(100,005 posts)40. I have a very hard time calling someone who steals pain meds from patients a victim
        The victims are the patients whose pain is not a trivial matter. I say this in the waiting period before knee-replacement  I have a high pain tolerance, but recently hit a tipping-point and experienced level 10 for a couple of days and nights. When I finally got it under control, it still remained high, exhausting, but below agony. We have others here at DU who live in a state of chronic very high-level pain all the time.
A person in a position of trust  doctor, nurse, PA, caregiver  who consigns their patients to intractable pain, is not the victim in this scenario.
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                        Mrs. Betty Bowers: JD VANCE: "My mother got the drugs that almost killed her from Mexicans." [View all]
							Swede
							Oct 6
							OP
                        
        
        The VP of the Party of Personal Responsibility is blamimg Mexicans because his mom chose to use drugs.
        sop
        Oct 6
        #3
      
        
        I have a very hard time calling someone who steals pain meds from patients a victim
        Hekate
        Oct 7
        #40
      
        
        So .... DEA should arrest his mother ? Seems like the most logical conclusion. nt
        eppur_se_muova
        Oct 6
        #18
      
        
        Let's even pretend it is true.  So what?  I assume she tried her best to source them...
        Ol Janx Spirit
        Oct 7
        #29
      
        
        I have no idea what he's talking about, but his mother wasn't forced at gunpoint to take any drugs.  It was a choice.
        Vinca
        Oct 7
        #32
      
        
        Don't take drugs while pregnant usless it is Tylenol. Otherwise you might end up with, you know, a vance.
        twodogsbarking
        Oct 7
        #33
      
        
        Meanwhile, Mexicans are complaining about relatives that were killed by guns that came from, well, Americans.
        twodogsbarking
        Oct 7
        #34
      
  