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Ol Janx Spirit

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23. What bothers me the most is the complete normalization of casting aside humility in favor of pride and selfishness.
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 09:43 AM
Oct 10

Truly good people act out of a commitment to putting others above themselves, to not seeking personal glory but lifting everyone, and to consider the interests of others in all that they do. MAGA sees the world in the exact opposite light. The light of pride and selfishness guides their way.

To them it is not only acceptable but desirable to elevate a person so fundamentally flawed as to demand that glory be bestowed upon them under threat of the destruction of others when glory isn't given.

The moral flaws of their leader could fill paragraph after paragraph, and we all know what they are very well--but the fact that it is rarely even discussed anymore how far it is outside of what we used to consider being a good person is frankly depressing.

Plato posited that only those that do not seek wealth and power but care only about the good of the community should be allowed to hold positions of authority. This is obviously unrealistic and always has been, but it is a worthy goal--one we should consider at the ballot box. But it takes everyone thinking in that way. Having one party that only wants power while the other party only wants change for the good of all is part of why we find ourselves here in this moment.

For thousands of years humanity has struggled to find a way to make morality and virtue the center of public life--mostly failing to do so; but at least managing to keep the concept alive. Is it now on death's door? Despite being the party claiming "Christian values," MAGA could not be farther from the values taught by the movement's namesake. And I fear the rest of us are quickly losing sight of how far away they have pulled us all from the light of humility.

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Indeed. The American corporate media was his cheerleading squad dalton99a Oct 10 #1
We start Scubamatt Oct 10 #19
Oh great, a "fairness' administered by... reACTIONary Oct 10 #45
The Fairness Doctrine would not apply to cable/satellite telly, social media, nor the internet in general. Celerity Oct 11 #50
What cheers did they perform? Oeditpus Rex Oct 10 #47
Also disturbing he deluded himself. He really Captain Zero Oct 10 #2
His brain is permanently in never-never land. And Miller, Putin, Musk, etc. are taking advantage of that. erronis Oct 10 #18
But...but... he's stopped eight wars! Gimpyknee Oct 10 #24
Which half? (n.t.) Oeditpus Rex Oct 10 #48
2025 Nobel Peace Prize Winner Coldwater Oct 10 #3
I'm afraid more Venezuelan fishing boats Conjuay Oct 10 #7
Before the day is over. flashman13 Oct 10 #21
Per NPR this morning, defacto7 Oct 10 #14
That is extremely disappointing. This should be its own OP.. Clouds Passing Oct 10 #17
That is not true, she is not pro-trump, but she needs to play politics with the hope that the USA Escurumbele Oct 10 #22
Exactly. She has called for international help in overthrowing Maduro. Ocelot II Oct 10 #32
Blowing the boats is just a show, he has not produced proofs of any kind those boats were carrying drugs, it is murder Escurumbele Oct 10 #35
Blowing up boats with people on them is murder. OMGWTF Oct 10 #39
I'm just relaying what was announced on NPR this morning. defacto7 Oct 10 #42
Maybe give the Republican Moral Champion a consolation prize Champp Oct 10 #4
This culture is ruled by Tinseltown bucolic_frolic Oct 10 #5
When you have folks too busy with fantasy and not paying attention to reality... OldBaldy1701E Oct 11 #53
Will Trump campaign... Escape Oct 10 #6
More likely Miss Teen USA. NNadir Oct 10 #8
It's gonna get more disturbing GusBob Oct 10 #9
Nate Morris suggested that he not only be given a Nobel Peace Prize but they should rename it after him. tetedur Oct 10 #10
Not yet. durablend Oct 10 #38
I just read the Wiki bio on Morris. Prof. Toru Tanaka Oct 10 #43
This reminds me of a medical loudmouth in the mid-oughts. cab67 Oct 10 #11
Part of Jeb Bush's legacy, when he was governor of Florida. CaptainTruth Oct 10 #26
it was an example of a "cannon retreat." cab67 Oct 10 #34
An interesting and fun analysis. This said, modern repukes couldn't care less about looking like hypocrites. NNadir Oct 11 #51
Plus - Israel never stopped bombing Gaza womanofthehills Oct 10 #12
The media has been corrupted to the point where unblock Oct 10 #13
Need a new prize named for him. multigraincracker Oct 10 #15
Or - Mother Of Four Oct 11 #52
Jack Ryan, Season 2 on Prime - our alternate timeline roscoeroscoe Oct 10 #16
If we believe we're doomed Mme. Defarge Oct 10 #20
What bothers me the most is the complete normalization of casting aside humility in favor of pride and selfishness. Ol Janx Spirit Oct 10 #23
It's interesting that you mention Plato as coincidentally my wife's birthday present to me... NNadir Oct 10 #31
A great choice! From a historical perspective we look around and see the myriad of great civilizations that... Ol Janx Spirit Oct 10 #37
Dear Leader deserves the Nobel Prize! (Droopy dog voice) Oneironaut Oct 10 #25
Just another shiny... 2naSalit Oct 10 #27
A real journalist C_U_L8R Oct 10 #28
The US may have lost its mind, but Norway hasn't. Sneederbunk Oct 10 #29
Hold fast, Nobel Committee Blue Owl Oct 10 #30
It would be far worse if the committee had been bribed and bullied into giving it to him Warpy Oct 10 #33
I'm not so sure some in the media took it 'seriously'. I think there a lot of those who fear for their Texin Oct 10 #36
whatever the reason, they are enabling his delusions Skittles Oct 10 #41
yup Skittles Oct 10 #40
K&R BlueWavePsych Oct 10 #44
'Our country is doomed' Oeditpus Rex Oct 10 #46
It WORKED. usonian Oct 11 #49
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