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Mustellus

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11. The S**t usually hits the fan with the order to fire on your own countrymen.
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 12:42 PM
Nov 26

When Gorbachov was kidnapped and the hard liners sent Russian troops into Moscow itself, the babushkas came out and the mothers holding nursing babies.. and said 'Don't shoot us'. Yeltsin climbed on a tank with a megaphone, and the revolt collapsed.

When Marcos was desperate, two million Philipinos in the streets of Manila, including the Cardinal of the city, Marcos ordered his head general to go out and clear the streets. Instead, the general led his troops out to join the demonstrators. Marcos got on the next plane out of the Phillipines, and Imelda lost her shoe collection.

Kent State is another case. The biggest military scandal of the 70's was the Reserves never deployed. Instead they were staffed with sons of the rich and powerful, and sports figures. (Whispers GWB). No one knows how the firing started, but they didn't hit any of the demonstrators. All the deaths were at 200 yards and further: e.g. not aimed shots.

Heck, if the Russian military couldn't stomach it, I have hopes our own military understands things better than Fox and the GOP

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I remember the My Lai massacre, it horrified me to think that US soldiers could commit MarineCombatEngineer Nov 26 #1
Many of us do remember, but we're starting to age out. It's important not to forget. MineralMan Nov 26 #3
I remember it well PatSeg Nov 26 #10
Ha! Good names. Joinfortmill Nov 26 #13
Great actors, Fox, Penn, Harvey, etc. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 26 #14
After Calley's 1971 sentence to life imprisonment, Nixon ordered the Army to transfer him from the military stockade sop Nov 26 #2
Yes. That was yet another misjudgment by a Republican President. MineralMan Nov 26 #4
I remember when the Hersh story came out - it was horrifying. Ocelot II Nov 26 #5
Yes, exactly! There is a measure of contempt for locals that creeps in MineralMan Nov 26 #9
And this mis-administration is working on contempt for others within this country. erronis Nov 26 #19
All trump has to do is keep his mouth shut Turbineguy Nov 26 #6
We studied and dissected that incident for a couple long days ... MiHale Nov 26 #7
Another good link...more in depth. MiHale Nov 26 #8
The S**t usually hits the fan with the order to fire on your own countrymen. Mustellus Nov 26 #11
I remember My Lai, but my first thought was Kent State. MLWR Nov 26 #15
Excellent point Joinfortmill Nov 26 #12
Illegal orders Cirsium Nov 26 #16
"On November 12, 1969, Seymour Hersh broke the My Lai massacre story" -- Great DU post erronis Nov 26 #17
I agree, but it was a provocation. gulliver Nov 26 #18
I don't know as much about this as I should. ShazzieB Nov 26 #20
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