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Sympthsical

(10,790 posts)
28. And it's an important distinction
Sat Nov 29, 2025, 07:12 AM
6 hrs ago

Thinking reform is required does not mean giving a thumbs up to Trumpian blackmail schemes, but some people try to confound the issue by mixing the two.

A lot of this started with Reagan when colleges became considered consumer goods instead of a public resource worthy of funding. And once you rely on consumers, well, products and services become king.

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Given the outrageous cost of the tuition I can see why they would think that. drray23 22 hrs ago #1
There goes critical thinking skills, right out the window SheltieLover 22 hrs ago #2
Exactly. They will know zero history, have zero writing and critical thinking skills,... hlthe2b 22 hrs ago #5
They will be gullible milestogo 21 hrs ago #14
Not to mention history & civics! SheltieLover 21 hrs ago #15
Critical thinking concludes college is too expensive leftstreet 22 hrs ago #8
You don't need a four year degree for any of that fujiyamasan 12 hrs ago #22
Critical thinking is really a more advanced skill. Happy Hoosier 4 hrs ago #32
4 year college should be free. SSJVegeta 22 hrs ago #3
I have a MS PCB66 4 hrs ago #38
Yet they are statistically more likely to make better decisions and vote the right way SSJVegeta 3 hrs ago #42
It's easier if you can get people to want being poorly educated. Turbineguy 22 hrs ago #4
Anti-intellectualism is a cornerstone Happy Hoosier 4 hrs ago #33
Can he get us a discount?? The Madcap 22 hrs ago #6
Ummmmm...... Lovie777 22 hrs ago #7
The leaders running the USA into the ground Progressive dog 21 hrs ago #11
Oh, They Teach That ProfessorGAC 5 hrs ago #29
I like to ask my economics colleagues if they have figured out tariffs yet Redleg 1 hr ago #51
Beauty! ProfessorGAC 1 hr ago #58
I was fortunate to have some good econ professors in grad school Redleg 50 min ago #59
Good To Hear ProfessorGAC 33 min ago #65
You want to improve your life and get somewhere, but it's survival-of-the-fittest up top bucolic_frolic 21 hrs ago #9
I can relate to that DFW 9 hrs ago #26
About time someone realized most 4-year degrees are worthless Lettuce Be 21 hrs ago #10
Yes indeed and it is a rational conclusion given the current moniss 21 hrs ago #12
I don't know what a college degree is worth in the age of AI newdeal2 21 hrs ago #13
$1.5 Million Johnny2X2X 4 hrs ago #34
So far, AI can't really replace thinking. Happy Hoosier 4 hrs ago #35
There is job loss already newdeal2 3 hrs ago #43
Congratulations, Higher Ed. You've priced yourself out of students! intheflow 21 hrs ago #16
Prices are out of control... Happy Hoosier 4 hrs ago #36
Decreased state and federal funds... róisín_dubh 2 hrs ago #44
Yet, blue states don't seem to be any cheaper than red states n/t MichMan 49 min ago #61
That's 100% true in the state of Wisconsin. Greybnk48 48 min ago #62
Thank you! I used to work at a community college, and that was the case there. raccoon 31 min ago #66
That means that people do not understand murielm99 20 hrs ago #17
seeing how many college-educated people are complete idiots Skittles 12 hrs ago #23
C's get degrees. Happy Hoosier 4 hrs ago #37
We're about 20-30 years late on this one Sympthsical 19 hrs ago #18
+1 leftstreet 19 hrs ago #19
Yes, What Trump is doing is wrong but I have a hard time supporting JI7 10 hrs ago #25
And it's an important distinction Sympthsical 6 hrs ago #28
I think you're wrong here.... Happy Hoosier 3 hrs ago #39
Yup, especially the last part. róisín_dubh 2 hrs ago #45
What's your disagreement specifically? Sympthsical 2 hrs ago #46
People need to be realistic JI7 18 hrs ago #20
There's no free lunch here fujiyamasan 12 hrs ago #21
Okay, there is no comparison mr715 1 hr ago #56
I never would have gone to college forty years ago. Jacson6 12 hrs ago #24
Corporate and anti-intellectual propaganda marches on JCMach1 6 hrs ago #27
It doesn't help when the K-12 education is so lacking, that colleges have to offer remedial classes MichMan 4 hrs ago #30
You know who does think it's worth it? Johnny2X2X 4 hrs ago #31
Absolutely true, IMO Happy Hoosier 3 hrs ago #40
Just disturbing to me the anti college rhetoric that has taken hold Johnny2X2X 3 hrs ago #41
Agreed Prairie Gates 2 hrs ago #48
THIS Iris 1 hr ago #54
What's hilarious is that the degrees now considered "useful" are the ones that were only recently invented Prairie Gates 2 hrs ago #47
I think you've simplified what the business disciplines are Redleg 1 hr ago #52
You're absolutely right...it's unfair to have the discipline you work in Prairie Gates 24 min ago #68
Well said Iris 49 min ago #60
"I have a nephew who received a BA in Philosophy who works at a Total Wine and More store." Jedi Guy 1 hr ago #49
Everybody has an anecdote about some student with a French poetry degree Johnny2X2X 1 hr ago #50
It's not the degrees themselves that are useful, but the habits of mind that the holders of the degrees have developed Iris 48 min ago #63
Well yeah. Johnny2X2X 43 min ago #64
GenX got jobs with these degrees without internships and co-ops Iris 3 min ago #69
My kids have college degrees and they aren't making much ALBliberal 1 hr ago #53
If we reduce everything to dollars mr715 1 hr ago #55
If you take 2 years tuition and plunk it in Tech growth stocks bucolic_frolic 1 hr ago #57
As someone who has spent more than a little time in college classrooms... WarGamer 27 min ago #67
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