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Sympthsical

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4. This doesn't require an essay. It's ideological tribalism.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 03:57 PM
Jan 12

That's it. That's the mystery. This essay is an ideological narrative shaping exercise, but it exchanges clarity for pseudo-intellectual jargon.

We are an increasingly polarized society. Race can have a strong component of it. But as we've seen in Latino communities, race is not necessarily controlling. Ideology. Political identification. Religion. Sexuality. All of these exert various amounts of force in influencing identity.

That the Right has certain opinions about certain kinds of white women is not new. This author is behaving as if she's covering some kind of new ground in the wake of this incident. Except the construct she's explaining has existed as long as I've been an adult at least. The Right even has a term for it (that I will not repeat here).

One of the great mistakes the Left is making is seeing components such as race as having a near totality of identity determination. This is decreasingly the case. Political lines are becoming less homogenous. The older demographic orders are crumbling.

Just this past week, I just watched two things that bear this out.

1. Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang had the audacity to not like Jasmine Crockett for Senate. They had an opinion about a primary. They were met with waves of racism and homophobia. Their sexuality and Bowen's non-whiteness came into play for all the wrong reasons. It did not quiet the ideological reaction. And this then rippled out into talking about gay men and Asians in general in less than flattering terms. This came wholly from the Left on social media.

2. New York politicians, including AOC and Mayor Mamdani, condemned a protest supporting Hamas in a Jewish neighborhood. People went scorched earth on them on social media. Just look it up. It is absolutely unhinged behavior. The racism was wild. It was almost feral. Being a woman of color and the first Muslim mayor not only didn't mitigate the hatred, it became an opportunity to expand upon it.

We are becoming a nation where political and ideological allegiance will override all other considerations. The Right has very strong opinions about liberal white suburban women. Very strong opinions. And they've had them for a very long time. So the killing of Renee Good is not some paradigm shift. You're not going to persuade white women on the Right that some immunity this author thinks existed is suddenly vaporized. Because white women on the Right share that opinion of Renee Good. The minute she showed up to protest ICE, she signaled she was out of their club and their empathy for her evaporated.

That's how this works now. There are no people as such. Just the loyal and the traitorous. And race, sex, gender, and orientation are secondary to whether or not you have signaled sufficient group loyalty.

That's the mystery. That's our biggest problem electorally now. And the minute you see it, you start to see it everywhere. Even here, I'll be perusing a thread and see all kinds of sexism and racism that are totally fine as long as it's directed at "the correct target." I see that cop's Filipina wife coming in for some . . . commentary. And lemme tell you. As the partner of a Filipino with Filipino in-laws who I adore - I abhor this bullshit with my whole soul. It's on days like that where I start questioning my own identification with a group.

But the media bubble ecosystems promote this stuff, so it's not going away anytime soon. Which means our politics will be fucked for the foreseeable.

The Internet was a mistake.

Good had a wife, used pronouns and wrote poetry. sop Jan 12 #1
Bingo! OldBaldy1701E Jan 12 #18
I think the fact that she was married to a woman came to play a big part in this. RockCreek Jan 12 #2
American conservative men largly view women as property. USS_Dauntless Jan 12 #7
Women mean as little to them as people of color or differing religions or political affiliation. Marie Marie Jan 12 #3
This doesn't require an essay. It's ideological tribalism. Sympthsical Jan 12 #4
Well, you're entitled to your opinion, but B.See Jan 12 #6
I honestly don't expect many people here to agree with me Sympthsical Jan 12 #17
Thank you for you response. B.See Jan 12 #24
I appreciate the engagement Sympthsical Jan 12 #29
Points taken. I think we both know where B.See Jan 12 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author B.See Jan 12 #34
I'm strongly in favor of Palestinian rights AZProgressive Jan 12 #27
Look at AOC's Jan. 9th post on Twitter about Hamas Sympthsical Jan 12 #30
I don't visit much Social Media AZProgressive Jan 12 #31
White women are promised NOTHING - TBF Jan 12 #5
You are absolutely correct... B.See Jan 12 #8
"the promise was always an illusion" - that's just it, I don't believe there is any promise TBF Jan 12 #25
Yes, from the day you are born. Zackzzzz Jan 12 #11
"Protecting women," just as "protecting children," is just an excuse they use to control and attack unblock Jan 12 #32
lol why WOULDN'T they cheer?? WhiskeyGrinder Jan 12 #9
I don't get your meaning. B.See Jan 12 #13
I'm saying why wouldn't these white supremacist men cheer about the death of someone who was doing her part WhiskeyGrinder Jan 12 #14
Ah. Knew there had to be more to it B.See Jan 12 #15
No problem -- I'm always happy to clarify. Thanks for being generous and giving me a chance to. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 12 #16
I'm a white man !! RB77 Jan 12 #10
A common refrain - TBF Jan 12 #20
It shouldn't offend you to acknowlege that many white men are cheering. Quiet Em Jan 12 #23
The offense you take is no more than the offense you choose Torchlight Jan 12 #28
Same reason why a significant percentage of white women are cheering Kaleva Jan 12 #12
Because we are being run by some seriously demented psychopaths who want absolute power. Initech Jan 12 #19
"across my own social media timelines" Found the problem. flvegan Jan 12 #21
BECAUSE THEY HATE WOMEN. milestogo Jan 12 #22
Because they killed a women. They're giddy little cretins. marble falls Jan 12 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author mr715 Jan 12 #35
Because they would have kacekwl Jan 12 #36
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