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GreatGazoo

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5. Yes - Intimidation and fear are part of the design

Tue Jan 13, 2026, 09:21 AM

Jan 13

The administration has said so. They told people "self-deport".

But the rest is incompetence. ICE officers have shot each other. Ross came within inches of shooting the ICE guy who was in Good's car window. Shooting the driver of a car which is, in theory, coming straight at you will not stop the vehicle from coming straight at you(!) Training says you 1) don't put yourself in that position and 2) get out of that position ASAP. Likewise shooting with only one hand on the gun so that the other hand can video record via phone is not competent or well-trained police behavior. Likewise putting yourself in a position where you could be dragged by a vehicle.

These aren't teams of people that competent law enforcement people want to be part of. "Friendly fire" isn't friendly.

Hanlon's Razor 2.0: "Never attribute to grand design that which is adequately explained by incompetence."

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The purpose of ICE atrocities [View all] orangecrush Jan 13 OP

They are normalizing the indiscriminate killing of average U.S. citizens in preparation for widespread repression. sop Jan 13 #1

Fear has put on a uniform again. orangecrush Jan 13 #2

THIS! johnnyfins Jan 13 #3

Now they will do anything dear leader tells them to orangecrush Jan 13 #4

Yes - Intimidation and fear are part of the design GreatGazoo Jan 13 #5

Comey says Trump demanded 'loyalty' in private meeting UpInArms Jan 13 #6

Exactly! OldBaldy1701E Jan 13 #7

Yes. This is their plan, and we have to understand that. Scrivener7 Jan 13 #8

They want us dead. SamKnause Jan 13 #9

ICE is Don's private Army azureblue Jan 13 #10

Maybe that is what that "stand back and stand by" Trailrider1951 Jan 13 #18

If we have a presidential election in 2028 and a Democrat wins, ICE needs to be disbanded immediately. Lonestarblue Jan 13 #11

If we don't deal with this shit now orangecrush Jan 13 #12

And every single agent should be facing some ultra-serious charges. calimary Jan 13 #13

You mean DHS right? Bettie Jan 13 #19

Yes. Just fixed. Thanks! Lonestarblue Jan 13 #32

Agreed with a caveat... Moostache Jan 13 #29

Three reasons. EPSTEIN, EPSTEIN, and EPSTEIN usonian Jan 13 #14

New ICE agents are getting close to a $50,000 salary. Which is not a huge salary. Fla Dem Jan 13 #15

When you give that much to someone otherwise only marginally employable orangecrush Jan 13 #16

When you are a mouth-breathing uneducated racist pig, $50K bonus is RICH... Moostache Jan 13 #30

What is Putin offering? Asking for a fiend. usonian Jan 13 #33

58.52% Cirsium Jan 13 #34

After George Floyd was killed in 2020, Minneapolis erupted in civil disobedience FakeNoose Jan 13 #17

I think he's going to try orangecrush Jan 13 #22

There's no mechanism for doing that, even Scotus has to agree FakeNoose Jan 13 #25

The mechanism orangecrush Jan 13 #27

I gotta say that you know, it never dawned on me how the cops were during the Floyd killing. bluestarone Jan 13 #28

My guess at this point popsdenver Jan 13 #20

Exactly orangecrush Jan 13 #21

Yup, Exactly popsdenver Jan 13 #26

Bad Times when the State uses it. Kid Berwyn Jan 13 #23

Fear has put on a uniform again. orangecrush Jan 13 #24

The Trump Mob thought the US CITIZENS would acquiesce as easily as many big law-firms and universities did. Attilatheblond Jan 13 #31