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Ms. Toad

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11. Defund meaning anything other than take their all money away

Wed Jan 14, 2026, 01:26 AM

Jan 14

was the lie we told ourselves (and tried to tell others) when the right picked up on the fact that many of the people who initiated the phrase "defund the police" meant precisely that - take all their money away.

When we say defund ICE - it means literally that - take all their money away. Once you take their money away, they no longer exist. I have no problem at all with that (unlike the "defund" the police - which most of us never meant literally and we had to twist ourselves into pretzels to try to explain away).

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Don't Defund ICE [View all] angrychair Jan 13 OP

I prefer "Defenestrate ICE" myself... regnaD kciN Jan 13 #1

I agree, MarineCombatEngineer Jan 13 #2

A lot of us have concerns about that term. spooky3 Jan 13 #4

It's already emasculated. stage left Jan 14 #9

The smart people in Portland have said this for years. Klarkashton Jan 13 #3

DURec leftstreet Jan 13 #5

Seconded... ABOLISH IT! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Jan 13 #7

I prefer SEND ICE TO HELL. usonian Jan 13 #6

Have to get rid of the christofascist regime first. Otherwise... Thomas Hurt Jan 13 #8

Reframe Everything they say stillspkg Jan 14 #10

Defund meaning anything other than take their all money away Ms. Toad Jan 14 #11

Ummm, "Crack the Ice" Intractable Jan 14 #12

So who would handle enforcing immigration laws? n/t Wanderlust988 Jan 14 #13

Who handled them before ICE was established in 2003? WhiskeyGrinder Jan 14 #15

INS which also was law enforcement too. n/t Wanderlust988 Jan 14 #16

don't I know it WhiskeyGrinder Jan 14 #17

Any specific practical solutions/alternatives you propose? Torchlight Jan 14 #21

Nobody in the interim angrychair Jan 14 #18

That's ludicrous that no one is there to enforce immigration laws. It's not feasible and very stupid. Wanderlust988 Jan 14 #19

a kinder, gentler deportation process, perhaps? WhiskeyGrinder Jan 14 #20

We also bear some responsibility as GW Bush wanted to work with Dems on reform Wanderlust988 Jan 14 #22

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