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charliea

(338 posts)
40. Reformed Agnostic here.
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 06:44 PM
15 hrs ago

That is I don't believe in an all powerful entity, but I'm willing to listen if She talks to me directly, right after a clean MRI anyway.
That being said there is no question that Pope Leo is the one with the ethically and morally correct stance.
Moses Johnson, a Baptist "bible-thumper", should open that thing he's thumping. No where in it is praise for war-mongers. He's said something about a 'war doctrine', without stating what he means. The Catholics have defined a 'just war', with a list of specific conditions to start one, and actions that can be taken in one. None of them are met in this war of Trump's choosing. The Catholic Church believes the Pope is infallible when pronouncing doctrine and Trump's error is believing he can successfully criticize the Pope without political cost, but why interrupt him when he's doing it?

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Me. rzemanfl 17 hrs ago #1
Reformed Agnostic here. charliea 15 hrs ago #40
I'd be on the devil's side if he was against those magats -- but he's part of them. erronis 15 hrs ago #47
Religion or not, the pope always has the high ground on moral issues. Srkdqltr 16 hrs ago #2
Maybe they expect the same treatment from the Catholic Church that Hitler got back in the 1930s... Towlie 16 hrs ago #6
I never understood that. Srkdqltr 16 hrs ago #8
Racism flashman13 16 hrs ago #13
I'm pretty sure... GiqueCee 15 hrs ago #22
There was a moment in 2020 ok_cpu 16 hrs ago #9
And even the Knights of Columbus has sided with the Pope on this. pnwmom 16 hrs ago #14
Ah, but what about... GiqueCee 15 hrs ago #25
They are a cult on the far right edge. Hopefully Pope Leo will eventually let them go. nt pnwmom 15 hrs ago #38
I kind of doubt that. Laffy Kat 15 hrs ago #42
See comment 80. TommyT139 10 hrs ago #81
Looks like it's already underway TommyT139 10 hrs ago #80
Thank you. I hadn't seen that. ok_cpu 15 hrs ago #44
Having the moral highground over Trump is a given for just about anyone, but TheProle 16 hrs ago #15
I don't consider either abortion or birth control to be immoral; I believe the Pope does. MLWR 16 hrs ago #18
Well...not always. progressoid 15 hrs ago #23
Thanks for the link! I'll watch someday when I have the stomach for it. erronis 15 hrs ago #50
Thanks for posting! Abolishinist 14 hrs ago #66
When compared to Trump, maybe. Gore1FL 14 hrs ago #60
Unless its about molesting children angrychair 13 hrs ago #73
This agnostic is on the Popes side MustLoveBeagles 16 hrs ago #3
Another agnostic here (because how can you really KNOW?)... maddiemom 15 hrs ago #35
Was baptized Lutheran, but agree with this Pope. nt allegorical oracle 16 hrs ago #4
Yes. My money is on Pope Bob from Chicago. Solly Mack 16 hrs ago #5
Ascension of Pope Francis modrepub 16 hrs ago #7
His title is a salute to LeoX the Pope who who backed the social gospel that- Yoyoyo77 14 hrs ago #62
Of course ! He's a loyal American, unlike Trmp. nt eppur_se_muova 16 hrs ago #10
Sure am. sinkingfeeling 16 hrs ago #11
Yup. GB_RN 16 hrs ago #12
Me. nt Susan Calvin 16 hrs ago #16
I have a lot more respect for the pope than I do for MAGA. yardwork 16 hrs ago #17
Oh, hell yeah! 1WorldHope 16 hrs ago #19
If tRump ends up dying as a result of the Pope's righteous opposition Blue Owl 16 hrs ago #20
Atheist here... but today we're all Catholics! bsiebs 15 hrs ago #21
speak for yourself. TheProle 15 hrs ago #26
Peace. bsiebs 15 hrs ago #45
That I can get on board with TheProle 15 hrs ago #49
As an ex-Catholic and a proud atheist lanlady 15 hrs ago #24
I believe he is only supposed to be considered "infallible" when speaking ex cathedra. harumph 15 hrs ago #43
Add me to the list of atheists siding with the Pope. llmart 15 hrs ago #27
Me. RetiredParatrooper 15 hrs ago #28
To me, Pole Leo is a humanist who cares no_hypocrisy 15 hrs ago #29
Yes, Pope is Kind. Trump is 4 million mosquitoes. chouchou 15 hrs ago #30
This agnostic can't stand the pope Raine 15 hrs ago #31
His feelings on Trump are a BAD thing? Just asking. maddiemom 14 hrs ago #65
No that's not a bad thing but l can't put aside Raine 13 hrs ago #72
Me SamuelAdams 15 hrs ago #32
Anyone with morals would be against Trump. He is the most corrupt person ever in the WH. walkingman 15 hrs ago #33
I'm a devout atheist... GiqueCee 15 hrs ago #34
I'm with you Bayard 9 hrs ago #82
Winston Churchill quote rationalcalgarian 15 hrs ago #36
emphatically yes. barbtries 15 hrs ago #37
Yes. Ultimately, it is about the values and not about any supernatural claims. Collimator 14 hrs ago #58
Yes Drum 15 hrs ago #39
These people use religion as a facade BeneteauBum 15 hrs ago #41
Me too. I really liked Pope Francis as well, even though we disagreed on several issues Greybnk48 15 hrs ago #46
As an atheist who called T the Anti-Christ many moons ago, I feel vindicated. GreenWave 15 hrs ago #48
Count me as another. Bev54 15 hrs ago #51
Yep! MayReasonRule 15 hrs ago #52
I'm an atheist. I obviously prefer the Pope. NNadir 14 hrs ago #53
As a Buddhist, I am against greed, intolerance and lies. (among other things) usonian 14 hrs ago #54
Pope Francis & Leo were morally correct about ongoing atrocities SunImp 14 hrs ago #55
Yes IbogaProject 14 hrs ago #56
Ex-Catholic (a priest and a nun in my extended family) and now spiritual but not religious, but very much a fan of highplainsdem 14 hrs ago #57
Well, i think the Pope means well purr-rat beauty 14 hrs ago #59
yep...feels weird but I'm ethically aligned w/new pope TalenaGor 14 hrs ago #61
I am in. nt Prairie_Seagull 14 hrs ago #63
Here! chowder66 14 hrs ago #64
Idiots, bullies and cultists always have the same response when you disagree with them. Aussie105 14 hrs ago #67
I guess I'm agnostic, but I think this Pope is wonderful! wolfie001 14 hrs ago #68
Atheist siding with the Pope. BidenRocks 14 hrs ago #69
It is amusing I will say that. I cannot endors either. Peace. twodogsbarking 14 hrs ago #70
Me. Pototan 14 hrs ago #71
Same here Retrograde 12 hrs ago #75
Nope duckworth969 13 hrs ago #74
Easily! True Dough 12 hrs ago #76
I am not religious nor do I have anything good to say about organized religion, but on this issue, I agree with Pope Leo Deuxcents 12 hrs ago #77
I like Pope Bob Metaphorical 12 hrs ago #78
Recovering catholic here. In this case, siding with the pope. mwmisses4289 11 hrs ago #79
Speaking of the Hillbilly Hemorrhoid, Conjuay 3 min ago #84
the enemy of my enemy... mike_c 1 hr ago #83
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