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In reply to the discussion: A hearty "FUCK YOU" to anyone who helped bigots and fascists capture the Supreme Court. [View all]LetMyPeopleVote
(181,970 posts)68. Karl Rove funded Nader in 2000 and 2004
Look who is funding the No Labels assholes
Remember Ralph Nader? So forget about voting for Jill Stein!
— Jonathan Emmesedi (@jemmesedi.c.im.ap.brid.gy) 2024-10-22T05:17:42.000Z
Ralph Nader Was Indispensable To The Republican Party | HuffPost Latest News
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ralph-nader-was-indispens_b_4235065
#USElection2024 #ThirdParty #GreenParty #JillStein
Remember that Nader was funded by Karl Rove in 2000 and 2004 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-zuesse/ralph-nader-was-indispens_b_4235065.html
Furthermore, Karl Rove and the Republican Party knew this, and so they nurtured and crucially assisted Naders campaigns, both in 2000 and in 2004. On 27 October 2000, the APs Laura Meckler headlined GOP Group To Air Pro-Nader TV Ads. She opened: Hoping to boost Ralph Nader in states where he is threatening to hurt Al Gore, a Republican group is launching TV ads featuring Nader attacking the vice president [Mr. Gore]. ... Al Gore is suffering from election year delusion if he thinks his record on the environment is anything to be proud of, Nader says [in the commercial]. An announcer interjects: Whats Al Gores real record? Nader says: Eight years of principles betrayed and promises broken. Mecklers report continued: A spokeswoman for the Green Party nominee said that his campaign had no control over what other organizations do with Naders speeches. Bushs people - the group sponsoring this particular ad happened to be the Republican Leadership Council - knew exactly what they were doing, even though the liberal suckers who voted so carelessly for Ralph Nader obviously did not. Anyone who drives a car the way those liberal fools voted, faces charges of criminal negligence, at the very least. But this time, the entire nation crashed as a result; not merely a single car.....
On July 9th, the San Francisco Chronicle headlined GOP Doners Funding Nader: Bush Supporters Give Independents Bid a Financial Lift, and reported that the Nader campaign has received a recent windfall of contributions from deep-pocketed Republicans with a history of big contributions to the party, according to an analysis of federal records. Perhaps these contributors were Ambassador Egans other friends. Mr. Egans wife was now listed among the Nader contributors. Another listed was Nijad Fares, a Houston businessman, who donated $200,000 to the Bush inaugural committee and who donated $2,000 each to the Nader effort and the Bush campaign this year. Furthermore, Ari Berman reported 7 October 2004 at the Nation, under Swift Boat Veterans for Nader, that some major right-wing funders of a Republican smear campaign against Senator John Kerrys Vietnam service contributed also $13,500 to the Nader campaign, and that the Republican Party of Michigan gathered ninety percent of Naders signatures in their state (90%!) to place Nader on the ballot so Bush could win that swing states 17 electoral votes. Clearly, the word had gone out to Bushs big contributors: Help Ralphie boy! In fact, on 15 September 2005, John DiStaso of the Manchester Union-Leader, reported that, A year ago, as the Presidential general election campaign raged in battleground state New Hampshire, consumer advocate Ralph Nader found his way onto the ballot, with the help of veteran Republican strategist David Carney and the Carney-owned Norway Hill Associates consulting firm.
It was obvious, based upon the 2000 election results, that a dollar contributed to Nader in the 2004 contest would probably be a more effective way to achieve a Bush win against Kerry in the U.S. Presidential election than were perhaps even ten dollars contributed to Bush. This was a way of peeling crucial votes off from Bushs real opponent - votes that otherwise would have gone to the Democrat. Thats why the smartest Republican money in the 2004 Presidential election was actually going to Nader, even more so than to Bush himself: these indirect Bush contributions provided by far the biggest bang for the right-wing buck.
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A hearty "FUCK YOU" to anyone who helped bigots and fascists capture the Supreme Court. [View all]
lapucelle
May 2
OP
If Al Gore had won in 2000, there would be no Roberts Court, no Samuel Alito, no Citizens United,
lapucelle
May 2
#3
as we will be under no obligation to give any Republican SC nominee a hearing or a vote,
Jack Valentino
May 4
#191
Sorry, that doesn't work on me. I told you who is on my list. Feel free to make your own list and post an OP.
lapucelle
May 2
#4
Yes, but - read up on the "shadow docket" - it is NOT only about SC justice appointments
RandomNumbers
May 2
#9
Indeed, those recent leaks reveal Roberts as the architect of the Shadow Docket
Fiendish Thingy
May 2
#14
But the effect of this corrupt court is greatly amplified by the 2nd TSF admin
RandomNumbers
May 2
#15
The recent murder of the final pillar of the VRA would have happened regardless of who was the current president
Fiendish Thingy
May 2
#18
There's nothing "strange and inconsistent" about calling out the folks who help Republicans win.
lapucelle
May 2
#41
Fighting for Democrats and standing up to, taking on, calling out those helping Republicans win
betsuni
May 2
#55
Roberts and Alito were appointed by G.W. Bush, and the OP mentions 2000
muriel_volestrangler
May 5
#195
Unless one of the Liberals dies or retires, any new appointments won't matter.
Fiendish Thingy
May 2
#19
They will matter because Trump will appoint someone at least as bad, who will be there for the next 40 years.
Crunchy Frog
May 2
#34
The court has been expanded and contracted numerous times throughout history
Fiendish Thingy
May 2
#76
They have plenty of vulnerabilities that Dems can exploit during their campaigns
Fiendish Thingy
May 2
#79
Without court expansion, we surrender the judicial branch for a generation
Fiendish Thingy
May 2
#115
If the court were expanded to 15 seats after Barron were appointed, I could live with that
Fiendish Thingy
May 2
#101
There is actual history about my comment. It's obvious why you would not recognize it.
Nixie
May 3
#172
Yes, I definitely remember all the scolds about the Supreme Court being a distraction from the *real* evil --
Nixie
May 3
#145
"It must be a fantastic speech, a brilliant speech, which you would want to share with the American
betsuni
May 3
#147
Dismissed as "identity politics." The white working class men who take showers at the end of the day revolution
betsuni
May 3
#180
We would still have the Roberts Court, Samuel Alito, Citizens United, and two out of the three Trump conservatives.
lapucelle
May 2
#21
Funny how it's Ruth Bader Ginsberg's fault and Al Gore's fault for picking Joe Lieberman.
lapucelle
May 2
#114
Damn right. Things wouldn't be perfect if Obama had chosen her replacement, but they'd be a hell of a lot better.
Crunchy Frog
May 2
#40
Feebly blaming Democrats, smirking "we could do this all day." Why? What's the point? Hating Democrats?
betsuni
May 2
#57
You're conflating third party voters and purity-protest nonvoters with politically independent voters.
lapucelle
May 2
#53
Too many naval-gazers don't understand (or don't care) how our political process actually works
dlk
May 2
#35
We could have packed that damn court between 2020 and 2022 if Democrats had been bold risk takers instead of
lees1975
May 2
#49
The inability to recognize and hopefully fix failures in our party are most often led by those blaming
Melon
May 3
#141
Perhaps it sounds like "the voters who don't vote" but the people being blamed are, in fact, the ASSHOLES
RandomNumbers
May 3
#164
Nader is still an asshole who refuses to admit he elected Bush or that Stein elected trump
LetMyPeopleVote
May 2
#69
Don't forget anyone who listens to garbage from Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, or their megachurch pastors.
Initech
May 2
#71
Those are Republican voters who wanted bigots and fascists to control the Supreme Court.
betsuni
May 2
#86
My plan is the same as it is every year: work hard to elect Democrats who can win.
lapucelle
May 2
#116
Nobody more classic New Deal liberal Democratic than Biden. No vote for him/Harris, New Deal not important.
betsuni
May 2
#129
Interesting that you choose to focus on 2016 when the OP is about 2000, 2016, and 2024.
lapucelle
May 2
#117
So your contention is that some folks on Democratic Underground don't vote for Democrats
lapucelle
May 3
#148
This is specifically why we BEGGED people to vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016.
LetMyPeopleVote
May 2
#110
Add Miriam Adelson and her dead husband that gave over $300 million to Trump to your list of bigots and fascists
PufPuf23
May 2
#128
I'm going to put the blame where it belongs. Elected Republicans, the media and elected Democrats
Autumn
May 3
#149
They will get one from me, if they don't come to their senses pretty quickly.
RandomNumbers
May 3
#165
You are perfectly free to exonerate third party voters and entitled non-voting protestors.
lapucelle
May 3
#153
A politicians job in the campaign is to listen to the voters, get out there and get those votes.
Autumn
May 3
#157
Folks are perfectly free to exonerate third party voters and purity protest nonvoters,
lapucelle
May 3
#159
I have no power to exonerate anyone. Neither do you. No politician is owed a persons vote.
Autumn
May 3
#162
If a (somewhat) figurative use of a fairly common verb is too tricky, let me simplify.
lapucelle
May 3
#163
And when they lose the primary, get out there and get those votes for the NOMINEE
RandomNumbers
May 3
#166
Eddie Glaude is so embarrassed by his editorial that he got Time to remove his byline.
lapucelle
May 3
#168
I either mute, fast forward or change channels with Glaude is on MS NOW for good reason
LetMyPeopleVote
May 6
#199
They always know better...like Biden 2024 was so obviously the right call
BeyondGeography
May 3
#190
If you have been involved with Democratic campaigns, you would know that their target groups are not
LeftInTX
May 7
#213
Democrats are constantly scolded to stop ignoring the white working class -- but now ignoring them is good?
betsuni
May 7
#215
Dang! I hate that I'm late to the latest episode of "People Loudly Ignoring How the Electoral College Works"
Rob H.
May 7
#214