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31. you might not find it as funny if I did the same dishonest and demeaning thing
Tue May 12, 2026, 09:39 PM
3 hrs ago

...the glee in this is positively passive aggressive and just completely offensive, despite your cheerynessess in tearing me down along with your faint praise.

You got a reply to your query, not an invitation to make biased projections about what I believe. But having done so, the deftness in which you claim things about what I've written here (well out of context and evidenced only in your mind in this thread) is quite a thing to behold.

I suggest you restrict those disagreements with what I've written in the past to those threads you're referencing, and not attempt to carry on those disagreements here.

Nothing I wrote in response to your posit suggests I believe you shouldn't criticize any politician. What I have written is much more nuanced than this cherrypicked characterization of my beliefs, as if you can only communicate with a fallen thread.

Indeed, you have my actual beliefs right in front of you, in response to your suggestion that Democrats do the same navelgazing backbiting over Israel in the upcoming election that lost us the last one.

You're certainly free to do that counterproductive thing and promote it as you have here. I'm certainly free to disagree that the issue that dissuaded many Democrats from supporting the ONLY choice other than trump in that election should be made prominent in this one.

I don't agree that Israel is more important than, say, ICE and their terrorizing of my community. I believe that intractable issue and debate should center on republican responsibility as a majority, and the contrast on that issue couldn't be greater.

But that doesn't appear to be the concern here.

It seems as if the aim is to use the election to elevate what you believe should happen in Israel/Gaza by casting blame and responsibility on the party out of power; the party that is diametrically opposed to what Netenyahu has done; and similarly opposed to what republicans have abdicated in their legislative role.

I don't get it. It's politically fraught and already evidenced as a losing proposition for Democratic campaigns. What's the problem here with taking this fight to the party that's actually standing in the way of accountability and control over their own prerogative to wage war?

Why this projected speciousness against the minority party which we all know would act responsibly toward Israel, have always represented the will of most Americans toward that sovereign nation?

And then, to transpose all of that onto Democrats, both present and future? What happened to opposing republicans who have repeatedly voted in huge numbers to let Trump continue his war on at the behest of Netenyahu?

Why isn't highlighting those votes, that Democrats have demanded repeatedly, a better political campaign appeal than this ass-out strategy that supposes we've done something wrong?

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On a Rainy Day [View all] H2O Man Saturday OP
Individually Saoirse9 Sunday #1
A number of things. H2O Man Sunday #6
When was Dick Cheney "ushered on stage" to endorse? What event was that? betsuni Sunday #2
Okay. H2O Man Sunday #7
you obviously don't see the virtue in enabling the election of a white supremacist, criminal madman bigtree 13 hrs ago #24
My brains shut down when I try to understand it. betsuni 50 min ago #42
This message was self-deleted by its author betsuni 50 min ago #43
"It is essential that we have a conversation on this complicated issue" Martin Eden Sunday #3
Very good! H2O Man Sunday #8
One Word Martin Eden Sunday #4
it's a hard conversation to have. mopinko Sunday #5
It has been a long while that I have seen so many of Israel's talking points summarized so well and succinctly. AloeVera Sunday #9
It definitely is hard. H2O Man Monday #11
i absolutely wish that jews believed in hell, mopinko Monday #13
Thank you! H2O Man Monday #15
Good OP malaise Sunday #10
Thank you! H2O Man Monday #12
interesting bigtree Monday #14
Interesting. H2O Man Monday #16
I think you can find numerous statements and actions by Sen. Schumer, if you look, that condem every objectional aspect bigtree Monday #17
Very good. H2O Man Monday #18
this is false bigtree 14 hrs ago #21
Gracious! H2O Man 13 hrs ago #22
that has nothing at all to do with what you claimed is my belief bigtree 13 hrs ago #23
Sure it does. H2O Man 13 hrs ago #25
well, you go on and tell me what I believe bigtree 10 hrs ago #27
Golly. H2O Man 7 hrs ago #28
responding to your continued effort to tell me what I believe bigtree 5 hrs ago #29
You are funny! H2O Man 5 hrs ago #30
you might not find it as funny if I did the same dishonest and demeaning thing bigtree 3 hrs ago #31
I think that H2O Man 3 hrs ago #32
I think it's sad that you can't find something that actually affects Americans to prioritize in the next election bigtree 2 hrs ago #33
Comic genius! H2O Man 2 hrs ago #34
like I said bigtree 2 hrs ago #35
Ha! H2O Man 1 hr ago #36
lol, sweating 'Robert' bigtree 1 hr ago #37
I have never H2O Man 1 hr ago #38
there you go again, claiming I said things I haven't said or implied bigtree 1 hr ago #39
You are confused. H2O Man 1 hr ago #40
the hubris in representing to me that you know ANYTHING substantive about what I believe bigtree 45 min ago #44
Catch-22, denialism and a few other things... AloeVera Monday #19
Americans were divided on that conflict bigtree 15 hrs ago #20
The attempts at restraint failed because there was little behind them to make them serious. AloeVera 1 hr ago #41
I think you're assuming levers of influence that didn't exist for Biden bigtree 29 min ago #45
I am reminded H2O Man 12 hrs ago #26
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