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fujiyamasan

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107. His wording isn't quite accurate, but the abuse sounds like it has been detailed in multiple detainee interviews

Thu May 14, 2026, 01:09 AM

May 14

It’s not the NYT that confirmed it as stated in the headline. It’s an op-Ed piece, so I would assume it should abide by NYT’s standards, but I would argue that you cant really treat an op-Ed as confirmation, as in a piece of investigative journalism. They’re just not the same.

That said, I’m not disputing anything written here. I read most of the Kristoff column (as much as I could get through before being horrified and disgusted). It’s not an easy read that’s for sure. He links to interviews and other sources throughout the piece.

What’s clear is Israel is systematically falling into a deeper moral Abyss. No country can allow this sort of behavior with no consequences and call it self a civilized society. As someone just as sickened by the attacks of 10/07, we should be able to condemn both forcefully. The difference between those attacks and this systemic treatment of Palestinians is that we wholeheartedly subsidize this as Americans.

He references the following op Ed:

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/11/opinion/israel-palestinians-sexual-violence.html

I’ve excerpted the part about the dogs being used:

On one occasion, he said, he was held down, stripped naked, and as he was blindfolded and handcuffed, a dog was summoned. With encouragement from a handler in Hebrew, he said, the dog mounted him.
“They were using cameras to take photos, and I heard their laughs and giggles,” he said. He tried to dislodge the dog, he said, but it penetrated him.

Other Palestinian prisoners and human rights monitors have also cited reports of police dogs being coached to rape prisoners. The journalist said that when he was released, an Israeli official warned him: “If you want to stay alive when you return, do not speak to the media.”

These are the links to the interviews:

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/interview-palestinian-detainee-recounts-sexual-assault-in-israeli-detention/3749192

https://www.instagram.com/reels/DYERwPIgTps/

Link to tweet

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8dy8r7lq0go

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New York Times confirms Israel using dogs to rape. [View all] red dog 1 May 12 OP

Benjamin Netanyahu's Israel. SalamanderSleeps May 12 #1

Nope GCG May 12 #7

No words. Just.... incredulous. B.See May 12 #92

Those fucking people are sub human. Autumn May 12 #2

Post removed Post removed May 12 #32

I've long thought... BurnDoubt May 12 #59

I found this on the Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor but from 2024 Beringia May 12 #3

Thanks for that link. red dog 1 May 12 #10

There are no fucking words n/t leftstreet May 12 #4

Our tax dollars hard at work. Ferrets are Cool May 12 #5

They are transforming into what they hate Johnny2X2X May 12 #6

The NYT didn't confirm anything. RandySF May 12 #8

I would like to see verification as well Mossfern May 12 #11

The dog part sounds odd. RandySF May 12 #12

Seems very odd to me too Mossfern May 12 #16

Aren't dogs considered unclean by Muslims? Attilatheblond May 12 #51

Not that uncommon- womanofthehills May 16 #111

Why would you do that? leftstreet May 12 #13

Why? Mossfern May 12 #20

I figured that's why you would do this, if true. electric_blue68 May 12 #23

Were you protesting the rape of prisoners? angrychair May 12 #74

There's an earlier article with pictures at post # 3 questionseverything May 12 #27

I'm not convinced, either. cab67 May 12 #73

Post # 74 has an article with soldiers admitting it and film questionseverything May 12 #76

Here's the link to the full Substack article TheRickles May 12 #38

Very damning for Owen Jones who is supposed to be a journalist. lapucelle May 15 #110

So how do you make decisions about whether any given allegation is true, if you weren't there to witness it first hand? TheRickles May 16 #112

The NYT did not "confirm" the allegation. lapucelle May 16 #114

If testimony by victims is just an "allegation", then how can any event be confirmed? TheRickles May 16 #115

Sorry, that doesn't work on me. "Testimony" is a statement under oath. lapucelle May 16 #116

About blood libel from the NYT Kristof article PufPuf23 May 12 #75

The author uses his name, it's far from his first article on this questionseverything May 12 #40

I feel really bad heckles65 May 12 #9

Post removed Post removed May 12 #14

So it's the Jews? sarisataka May 12 #21

This is the kind of shit we need to avoid. RandySF May 12 #22

I've said for years: Israel allows anti-Semitism to be wrapped in policy and politics rather than straight bigotry. AZLD4Candidate May 12 #29

I mean the above rhetoric. RandySF May 12 #37

I'm not. I'm Jewish and history has shown the following: AZLD4Candidate May 12 #42

I think they meant that the existence of Israel lets people be antisemitic EdmondDantes_ May 12 #45

Exactly what I meant. AZLD4Candidate May 13 #94

Please read up on what "chosen" means in that context. Mossfern May 12 #25

I was going to.post Tikkun Olam,but you beat me to it. BattleRow May 12 #47

Yes, and.., stillspkg May 12 #69

So Israel all us Jews. Nice! AZLD4Candidate May 12 #28

I can't find any evidence that the NYT has confirmed this. Coventina May 12 #15

By which they mean that one of their most esteemed journalists, Nicholas Kristof, has written in detail about this story TheRickles May 12 #43

An Op-Ed opinion column does not equal a NYT confirmation of the truth of the reports. n/t Coventina May 12 #61

Very true. But it lends a bit more heft to the notion that the story is valid, all things considered. TheRickles May 12 #65

A rather bold headline for an opinion piece that lacks evidence sarisataka May 12 #17

If it's Jews, it's news. AZLD4Candidate May 12 #30

Turns out there was an asterisk next to the phrase "Never Again*" with regards to Israel. Crowman2009 May 12 #18

Bibi complains they are losing the social media war. YA THINK?! cer7711 May 12 #19

It doesn't take much evidence to whip up anti-Jew hatred, does it? RandySF May 12 #24

I'm sorry, what are you talking about? dem4decades May 12 #31

None whatsoever. DavidDvorkin May 12 #36

Very little is needed to bring out the Judenhass sarisataka May 12 #48

Bull. Shit. DavidDvorkin May 12 #26

There may be doubt to cast on this article. 3_Limes May 12 #33

Well that settles that! quinteroon May 12 #60

Hello, welcome to DU sarisataka May 12 #64

Well, howdy! quinteroon May 12 #67

Just a personal prediction sarisataka May 12 #71

One green pepper, mushroom and onion delivered sarisataka May 14 #104

Is it true Comet Pizza... Brother Buzz May 12 #78

Welcome to DU, quinteroon! calimary May 14 #103

And once again, victim and eyewitness testimonies are considered suspect Rob H. May 12 #34

Do you recall the many that denied the sexual assaults of October 7? sarisataka May 12 #39

There was video on Oct. 7. RandySF May 12 #46

There was, yet within the last month sarisataka May 12 #49

Didn't stop people from denying it or Piker from saying it doesn't matter EdmondDantes_ May 12 #53

That's because a few of the initial storys were debunked (see link), so many believed all that followed was BS krawhitham May 12 #52

It only took two debunked accounts to believe the Jews were lying? RandySF May 12 #57

Classic whataboutism. Miss me with that bullshit Rob H. May 12 #63

Got it, if one standard is good, two standards is better sarisataka May 12 #70

I believe Israeli women were sexually assaulted by Hamas Eko May 12 #91

That is indeed possible however the reality is sarisataka May 13 #93

All you have to do is scroll through this entire post and you will see many dismiss what the Palestinians said. Eko May 13 #96

I agre that is true in this thread. sarisataka May 13 #97

What threads? Eko May 13 #98

Pretty much any thread sarisataka May 13 #99

You made a claim but wont show any proof. Ok. Eko May 13 #100

I'm not going to dig through the past threads sarisataka May 14 #102

I hope your dog lasts for many more years. Eko May 14 #106

Or Epstein victims... BattleRow May 12 #85

Post removed Post removed May 12 #35

Well they have been accused of perversion and subversion for well over two thousand years sarisataka May 12 #62

"These people?" Mossfern May 12 #80

The Israeli military people behind these alledged atrocities obviously 3_Limes May 12 #83

It was there sarisataka May 12 #86

"these people," oof WhiskeyGrinder May 12 #84

Wondering how other Islamic nations are going to respond to this. I have no problem with anything they decide to do. NoMoreRepugs May 12 #41

Anything at all? DavidDvorkin May 12 #50

IMHO, the chances that this happened as described are pretty good. 3_Limes May 12 #55

Even if it's absolutely true, still wouldn't justify an unlimited response EdmondDantes_ May 12 #72

Anything sarisataka May 12 #54

They'll hopefully ask for proof Melon May 14 #105

IIRC orangecrush May 12 #44

Israel's own soldiers have filmed it and shared the images questionseverything May 12 #66

WTAF!!!!!!! yellow dahlia May 12 #56

I would view this report with caution. There are conflicting reports. Use discretion when sharing on other sites. Joinfortmill May 12 #58

Im going to need more details. BannonsLiver May 12 #68

I've been out of touch for a few days from reading DU. 1WorldHope May 12 #77

About "Israel," not "Jews"... regnaD kciN May 12 #79

Sometimes, to some people they are the same thing. sarisataka May 12 #81

I thought I saw the word, "Jew", specifically. 1WorldHope May 12 #90

Wow, some people really showing who they are 'round here Prairie Gates May 12 #82

Here is the New York Times opinion peice.... reACTIONary May 12 #87

So many responses of I will wait for confirmation or some such reminds me of the movie Jaws Beringia May 12 #88

Omg I feel sick LearnedHand May 12 #89

Me too, it is so depressing. Celerity May 13 #95

That's beyond disgusting and insane. Fucking barbaric practices. Dave Bowman May 14 #101

His wording isn't quite accurate, but the abuse sounds like it has been detailed in multiple detainee interviews fujiyamasan May 14 #107

And now Israel is threatening to sue the NYT for defamation. TheRickles May 14 #108

Seymour Hersh published today about Israel and Palestine Beringia May 15 #109

All of this repetitious religious harangue... BH liberal May 16 #113