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Ocelot II

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20. He's at the center of a Venn diagram of evil, stupid, and crazy.
Sat May 16, 2026, 07:49 AM
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Sometimes there is a pretty fine line between mad and bad, and sometimes those things merge. True, most people with mental illness are not dangerous. On occasion, though, a person can be so delusional that they commit a serious crime, and in those relatively rare cases they are not held legally responsible for the crime on the ground that they were so mentally ill that they did not understand what they were doing or that it was a crime. But that's not Trump. He could never succeed with an insanity defense because he (mostly) knows and intends what he's doing. That's not to say that he's psychologically normal, because he clearly is not, even slightly.

The article in the OP recites a list of the many bad things Trump has done and continues to do, but offers no explanation for why he does them. He's a whole festering ball of personality disorders, DSM-V all condensed and shoveled into one person; and some personality disorders cause people to behave very badly. Since he has almost all of them, epic badness is to be expected, but personality disorders are not psychoses. He could choose not to do those bad things; he knows what they are and when he's doing them. He's not a classic schizophrenic; he doesn't really think he's Jesus, for example; only that he's just as good as and as worthy of worship as Jesus. I don't think he could be persuaded to walk on the newly-"improved" reflecting pool once it's filled or try to turn one overcooked hamburger into meals for the multitudes; he doesn't think he's the original miracle-doing Jesus.

This is where his personality disorders come in; as a narcissist he just loves it that MAGA thinks he's Jesus-like because he's a megalomaniac and a narcissist. He's completely self-absorbed and doesn't care who he's talking to as long as he knows someone is listening, which is why he saw nothing peculiar about talking to small children about Iran's nuclear weapons. He's all transmit and no receive, and he saw the children only as receivers for his transmissions. They could have been anybody with ears. He's a total solipsist, meaning that to him other human beings with minds and emotions and needs and agency don't exist, so he will do bad things on the regular because he's interested only in himself and other people are just tools for him to manipulate. None of that is normal, and it's the merger of mad and bad. The "madness" enables him to think that way, and the badness is that he could choose not to do the things he thinks about but does them anyway.

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The asshole needs an exorcist, not a psychiatrist. dalton99a Yesterday #1
Exactly! He is pure evil. Grim Chieftain Yesterday #3
It drives me crazy FHRRK1 Yesterday #2
Precisely. B.See Yesterday #8
Morally evil and mentally ill are not mutually excludve. wnylib Yesterday #27
THIS malaise Yesterday #30
I was going to posit the same thing - he is both. yellow dahlia Yesterday #34
I'd agree they aren't mutually exclusive. He's B.See 20 hrs ago #43
And he's not dumb. He's a diabolical genius. nt pnwmom Yesterday #4
BULLSHIT. He is profoundly stupid. Even Rex Tillerson recognized that in his first term. AZ8theist Yesterday #6
Yes, he is mentally dull NJCher Yesterday #7
What that means is that his genius, i.e., his superpower, is in being evil. nt pnwmom Yesterday #15
He is completely immoral Cosmocat Yesterday #31
Violence Whip-poor-will Yesterday #16
Or maybe he's gotten a free pass for evil, underhanded s---- that would've gotten anyone else LOCKED UP, long ago. B.See Yesterday #9
NOPE Skittles Yesterday #12
an evil genius wd intelligently pick his targets. mopinko Yesterday #22
It's just an issue of word choice NJCher Yesterday #28
Why. Can't. He. Just. Die? Grim Chieftain Yesterday #5
Trump is sly...he knows how to manipulate racists BlueWaveNeverEnd Yesterday #10
doesn't take "sly" to do that NJCher Yesterday #24
He won't die and go to hell, Satan doesn't even BigmanPigman Yesterday #11
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯 ..... ♾️ live love laugh Yesterday #13
Paint "Old Smokey" gold. BidenRocks Yesterday #14
I AGREE. THANK YOU, B.SEE. Cha Yesterday #17
Thank you, Cha. B.See 20 hrs ago #44
Trump has The Dark Triad Personality no_hypocrisy Yesterday #18
Thank you for your summary and your willingness to share your story. yellow dahlia Yesterday #35
I think a person can be both evil and mentally ill. The notion calling Trump mentally ill is somehow harmful to those Vinca Yesterday #19
a psychiatrist once told me NJCher Yesterday #25
He's at the center of a Venn diagram of evil, stupid, and crazy. Ocelot II Yesterday #20
What his best friend said about him... Kid Berwyn Yesterday #21
Malignant narcissism is a mental pathology Martin Eden Yesterday #23
I've only been saying this forever. BlueTsunami2018 Yesterday #26
I will not grant trump the sympathetic response that "mentally ill" deserves. Totally Tunsie Yesterday #29
Yes yes yes TommieMommy Yesterday #32
Evil schmevil. gulliver Yesterday #33
Technically incorrect. returnee Yesterday #36
Histrionic Personality Disorder, less recognized in men. Obvious in this one Maru Kitteh 22 hrs ago #41
we tend to think of monsters as fictional beasts agingdem Yesterday #37
Regarding Mary Shelley's Frankenstein: Martin Eden 23 hrs ago #39
Correct mvd Yesterday #38
Evil is a religious construct and not very useful. He certainly IS mentally ill. Maru Kitteh 23 hrs ago #40
Frontal lobe dementia plus sadism: loves to hurt people, deliberately. lindysalsagal 20 hrs ago #42
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