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Sympthsical

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14. What people say vs what they would do
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 01:49 PM
12 hrs ago

I think my default is deontology, but a complex world with imperfect context will often leave us at consequentialist crossroads.

I'm currently watching that story with the influencer couple who terminated a pregnancy after the fetus was found to have trisomy 21. Now, there are plenty of people who will say they would never, that it's wrong, what terrible people they are. But let's be honest. Given privacy laws, HIPAA, etc. If they know ironclad no one would find out, how many of those people who are publicly declaring the moral position would make a similar choice when facing those circumstances themselves?

So, I think this is one of those instances where people know they're being polled, they'll say they would do the moral thing, but when the chips are down, well, it's situational.

"It's different when I do it" is practically the unofficial slogan of America.

My answer is, I strive for the deontological, but there are moments in my life where I lose patience, am feeling spiteful, am put in a no-win situation, etc., and it's just "Fuck it. If this is what the universe is giving me to work with, so be it."

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A simple poll [View all] sarisataka 14 hrs ago OP
When one side has thrown the rule book in the garbage, then all bets are off. -nt CrispyQ 14 hrs ago #1
This orangecrush 10 hrs ago #26
Yup. I'm not a big fan of unilateral disarmament. 11 Bravo 9 hrs ago #27
Would you kill Hitler? Nothing is absolute. Scrivener7 14 hrs ago #2
It is a philosophical question so there is no "right" answer sarisataka 13 hrs ago #6
Morality is relative to the context and circumstances Fiendish Thingy 14 hrs ago #3
That is a comparison often brought up sarisataka 13 hrs ago #8
That's why your poll is flawed logically Fiendish Thingy 13 hrs ago #10
It is not a poll of logic sarisataka 13 hrs ago #12
Logic is one essential element of philosophy Fiendish Thingy 13 hrs ago #13
I tend to view it as a question of values and how seriously we take them. Jedi Guy 12 hrs ago #15
It's also ironic that the accusations against Platner Fiendish Thingy 12 hrs ago #17
I don't think she's the only one who's reported borderline violent behavior during past relationships, though. Jedi Guy 11 hrs ago #18
Her account is the only one I've read alleging violence Fiendish Thingy 11 hrs ago #21
Logic is a component sarisataka 12 hrs ago #16
Explaining my "Pass" response Bettie 14 hrs ago #4
Exactly why I didn't vote obamanut2012 13 hrs ago #5
Correct! I can understand why many people prefer a binary choice of this-or-that, black-or-white, up-or-down, etc. QueerDuck 11 hrs ago #19
You could simply ask sarisataka 11 hrs ago #24
Yes, I remember it well. It was a position that was secretly supported but publicly excused by many... QueerDuck 10 hrs ago #25
That "baby Hitler" line made me think of an episode of Family Guy Polybius 5 hrs ago #31
Need an "it depends" option. Happy Hoosier 13 hrs ago #7
Not always an either or issue, so I passed jimmy the one 13 hrs ago #9
That would make it too easy sarisataka 13 hrs ago #11
What people say vs what they would do Sympthsical 12 hrs ago #14
I support Rawlsian Liberalism. mr715 11 hrs ago #20
That begs the question sarisataka 11 hrs ago #22
When I took political theory, the floor was the number 20. mr715 11 hrs ago #23
Appreciation for all who answered and the discussion sarisataka 7 hrs ago #28
That was an adept rhetorical flourish, sarisataka mr715 7 hrs ago #29
Sometimes the choice is one of bad or worse. GoodRaisin 6 hrs ago #30
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