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64. My take for what it is worth.

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Sat Jun 27, 2026, 01:58 AM

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The Mayor of NY City used the celebration of the NY Knicks win to make an inflammatory political statement. There are approximately 1.4 million Jews that live in the New York City metropolitan area, making it the largest Jewish community outside of Israel.

Mamdani is the mayor of all the people of the city and IMHO he should choose his words wisely. This was the Wrong place. Wrong time. Wrong message.

He is new. He is young. I hope he learns and I wish him the best.

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Hundreds of rabbis accuse Mamdani of fueling antisemitism over 'monsters' comment [View all] question everything Friday OP

So, is AIPAC scared, or angry? Fiendish Thingy Friday #1

Both. mountain grammy Friday #2

Thank you TVguyCards 4 hrs ago #164

Yes mr715 Friday #9

whatever.... mike_c Friday #3

Blaming Jewish or Israeli people for the Eko Friday #4

he was criticizing AIPAC and it's dark money PACs hookaleft Friday #7

Logic? AloeVera Friday #36

Thanks AloeVera! Eko Friday #38

And speaking of logic... AloeVera Friday #39

Fuck this racist claptrap Sympthsical Friday #55

"Say no to AIPAC" is not aimed at just Jews, it's aimed at everyone muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #72

Stop. Sympthsical Yesterday #74

Stop what? muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #77

Stop running interference for these antisemitic tropes Sympthsical Yesterday #79

I really do not see people blaming Jews on DU muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #83

And your thoughts on Sympthsical Yesterday #87

People should not say "If the Jews would just do X, then people wouldn't hate them!" muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #91

It's literally the post I replied to Sympthsical Yesterday #92

No, it's not. The post you replied to says muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #94

Wow Sympthsical Yesterday #95

Thank you from the bottom of my heart. AloeVera Yesterday #138

You have it now. AloeVera Yesterday #107

What Israel is doing in Lebanon and GAZA is genocide. AND I will vote in primaries for the candidate who does not Demsrule86 Yesterday #99

I agree with you. Thank you. QueerDuck 5 hrs ago #156

Your response is beyond the pale. AloeVera Yesterday #105

When people peddle in collective responsibility for hate received by an ethnic group Sympthsical Yesterday #109

Show me where I assigned "collective responsibility". AloeVera Yesterday #113

I can't make it any simpler than I have. Sympthsical Yesterday #114

Sympthsical - you lumped me in with the assholes that attacked that Jewish man in the park. AloeVera Yesterday #126

Everything he said was true. hookaleft Friday #5

Who is "they?" Mossfern Friday #57

Netanyahu should be attacked lame54 Friday #6

He should be brought to the Hague for Crimes against humanity. lebanese people and GAZA Demsrule86 Yesterday #100

You surely feel the same about the leaders of Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran. DavidDvorkin Yesterday #116

LMAO fuck you, AIPAC n/t aocommunalpunch Friday #8

The popular new brand of lipstick. Behind the Aegis Friday #10

So, for you, the problem is not the ideology of AIPAC. It's just that it's not 100% successful. Intractable Friday #12

Strawman much? Behind the Aegis Friday #13

Oh, how is it not the case? I see no argument here. Just a vacuous statement. Intractable Friday #14

Lipstick on a pig Behind the Aegis Friday #15

Post removed Post removed Friday #18

You are accusing a DUer of lying? yardwork Yesterday #86

Your supposed "truth" is irrelevant and is a feeble distraction from the main point. Intractable Friday #19

BtA doesn't "lie" and it's not "feeble Or irrelevant. Cha Friday #46

You keep pointing at who is funding it when many people other than Jewish people fund it also. Eko Friday #25

According to Protocols... sarisataka Friday #23

Rothchild, Soros, Zionist, AIPAC ... lapucelle Friday #29

I think you misunderstood this poster. yardwork Friday #51

I've been reading his posts for years now. There's no misunderstanding from either of us. Intractable Friday #52

Here Is All the Money AIPAC Spent on the 2024 Elections hookaleft Friday #17

There may be some apples and oranges mixed in here, but..... DFW Yesterday #68

Mahalo, BtA.. It's no big mystery why Cha Friday #44

Post removed Post removed Yesterday #102

Thank you! Bookmarking. betsuni Yesterday #62

Sometime, probably soon. The rabbis will learn the US ain't taking it so much anymore. 31j20b3 Friday #11

82% of NY jews... Boo1 Friday #21

Wisconsin has many fewer Jewish identifiers 31j20b3 Friday #22

I dont agree that anti-zionism is antisemitic. Eko Friday #26

Including Palestinians? Boo1 Friday #32

Here. Eko Friday #37

What's the difference in having a right Boo1 Friday #41

inherent Eko Friday #48

That goes for Muslim countries too? Mossfern Yesterday #58

Yes Eko Yesterday #63

So you support a One World government? Mossfern Yesterday #73

Nowhere did I say that. Eko Yesterday #89

Is it possible Eko Yesterday #65

Sure Mossfern Yesterday #69

It is not merely the belief that Jewish people have a homeland Eko Yesterday #88

Palestine was not a nation Mossfern Yesterday #90

Muslims are persecuted in Israel and what has been done in GAZA is a disgrace. Demsrule86 Yesterday #106

Jews are murdered in Palestine Mossfern Yesterday #110

I'm never said Palestine was a nation did I? Eko Yesterday #119

So ...... Mossfern Yesterday #121

No, that is not exactly what I am saying. Eko Yesterday #124

I do have a reason Mossfern Yesterday #125

Here is Israel's first prime minister David Ben-Gurion's thoughts on it. Eko Yesterday #137

One could argue Mossfern Yesterday #140

Ah yes, and everyone agrees the colonists in the US were great people because they kicked out Eko 20 hrs ago #147

You have a slanted version of the history of the inception of Israel Mossfern 9 hrs ago #149

Here let me change this and see how odd it is to ask that question to me. Eko 6 hrs ago #153

I have always been against the expansioin into Palestinian areas Mossfern 5 hrs ago #155

I dont think you see the irony. Eko 4 hrs ago #157

I am not painting you with a broad brush. Mossfern 4 hrs ago #159

Of course you are. Eko 4 hrs ago #161

Great non-answers Mossfern 3 hrs ago #169

Non answers? Eko 3 hrs ago #171

Thank you Mossfern 3 hrs ago #172

You do realize that was from like 8 or 9 posts ago right? Eko 3 hrs ago #174

Nope Mossfern 3 hrs ago #175

I didnt answer these cause I got tired of you questions. Here is my answer. Eko 3 hrs ago #173

What questions did I not respond to? Eko 4 hrs ago #163

You should watch the John Oliver video in post 81 Eko 4 hrs ago #158

Why do you keep assuming Mossfern 4 hrs ago #160

I dont. Eko 4 hrs ago #165

It was a territory like the Syria, Jordan, Lebanon etc of today. Yet only Palestine is not a nation today. AloeVera 6 hrs ago #150

Try going into Gaza with a kippah Mossfern 6 hrs ago #151

I'm sure there are kippahs there now. AloeVera 6 hrs ago #152

Palestinians worked in Israel and there Mossfern 5 hrs ago #154

I think so. Joinfortmill Yesterday #78

Just a correction here... Violet_Crumble Yesterday #67

I am well aware of the expulsion of Palestinians as well as their leaving voluntarily during the 1948 war. Mossfern Yesterday #71

700,000 Palestinians were expelled or fled, never allowed to return to this day. AloeVera Yesterday #130

And this? Mossfern Yesterday #133

You know about cause and effect... AloeVera Yesterday #135

You forget the dhimmi status of Jewish people in Arab countries Mossfern Yesterday #142

Can't reach those laudable goals without the political will of both Israelis and Americans. AloeVera 22 hrs ago #145

My bad Mossfern 21 hrs ago #146

US Gentiles have no problem with the Jewish population. In fact we love and welcome you to the Democratic Party hookaleft Friday #33

Are the palestinians Boo1 Friday #34

Post removed Post removed Friday #35

If the Palestinians didn't want Hamas Boo1 Friday #40

Because Palestinians that go against Hamas are killed in front of their families. Intractable Yesterday #141

Well, if someone could move into your home at any time Bettie Yesterday #81

Rabbis in the US are "Sowing" the actions of Israel sarisataka Friday #24

Mamdani accused AIPAC of pouring "millions of dark-money dollars" into efforts to turn the public against itself. Nanjeanne Friday #16

+1 leftstreet Friday #43

Exact quotes. LAS14 Friday #20

This is the most complete transcript of his speech I can find muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #75

What fuels antisemitism is people like them conflating Jews and Israel/AIPAC RockRaven Friday #27

Couldn't agree more and said so in Post # 36. nt AloeVera Friday #42

"Jews are to blame for antisemitism." Boo1 Friday #45

Netanyahu is a monster. AloeVera Friday #47

Netanyahu and the actions of his government Eko Friday #49

+1 dalton99a Yesterday #70

Why are you attributing a quote to someone that they NEVER said? Violet_Crumble 4 hrs ago #162

"What fuels antisemitism is people like them..." Boo1 4 hrs ago #166

You can stand by anything you like. You falsely attributed a quote to someone... Violet_Crumble 3 hrs ago #167

Whatever makes you feel better Boo1 3 hrs ago #168

Thank you. I'm starting my day with a smile on my face! Violet_Crumble 3 hrs ago #170

This message was self-deleted by its author Ponietz Yesterday #80

I'm not Jewish, but I have Jewish relatives... Joinfortmill Friday #28

There are elections planned later this year question everything Friday #30

AIPAC goal is throwing money at centrists. Emile Friday #31

not just centrist and conservative Dems but also hard RWer MAGAt rethugs, including 2020 seditionists and traitors Celerity Yesterday #59

Having not given it any thought - woah on supporting those Republicans! TY 4 info. electric_blue68 Yesterday #112

And what do the Catholic priests say? Iggo Friday #50

Bibi makes the propaganda run on time Ponietz Friday #53

This message was self-deleted by its author CivicGrief Friday #54

Ii haven't heard anyone here say anything of the sort. Mossfern Yesterday #61

Just (One Person) Wondering... wyn borkins Friday #56

The I/P forum tries hard to host these kinds of discussions, but in reality the independent forums hlthe2b Yesterday #96

Understood :: And Thank You (hlthe2b) For Your Response (n/t) wyn borkins Yesterday #97

There will be no peace until a fair 2 multigraincracker Yesterday #60

Israel doesn't want this...but you are right. Demsrule86 Yesterday #101

My take for what it is worth. sheshe2 Yesterday #64

I was surprised this happened. I hope he learns, too. betsuni Yesterday #66

Israel is involved in Genocide. They must be called out. And a fair number of those Demsrule86 Yesterday #104

Not a very smart statement on his part. MineralMan Yesterday #76

Religion is the most divisive thing Bettie Yesterday #82

100% Agree! MineralMan Yesterday #84

My husband and I talk sometimes about Bettie Yesterday #85

Congratulations on your 20,000 post milestone. Now on to your next niyad Yesterday #93

I agree.... Demsrule86 Yesterday #108

He didn't, however, mention religion muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #115

Israel is involved in war crimes in GAZA and Lebanon...murdering kids. Demsrule86 Yesterday #98

...Hundreds of rabbis voted for Mamdani... mr715 Yesterday #103

Well it hurts feelings when a message that's cherished and been pushed all your life 31j20b3 Yesterday #111

Huh? Mossfern Yesterday #117

Yep, that's the sentiment I was trying to represent 31j20b3 Yesterday #118

AIPAC Mossfern Yesterday #120

Well In My Opinion AIPAC looked very involved in pushing Bidens crash 31j20b3 Yesterday #122

That is one huge stretch! Mossfern Yesterday #127

I'm asserting that AIPAC would support any POLICY of Netanyahu 31j20b3 Yesterday #131

What does that have to do with Biden? Mossfern 23 hrs ago #143

AIPAC was one of three groups he listed as the "monsters" muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #123

I read psot #75 Mossfern Yesterday #128

Here: muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #129

Surely you see Mossfern Yesterday #132

Not all lobbying groups are eqqual 31j20b3 Yesterday #134

I'm an artist Mossfern Yesterday #139

It's about groups putting money into the NY races. Yes, it had a wide spread. muriel_volestrangler 18 hrs ago #148

The day had better be coming when AIPAC, and every other lobby organization is restricted from the money they can lees1975 Yesterday #136

We lost that right when we lost Citizens United. yardwork 23 hrs ago #144

Yes, we did. lees1975 3 hrs ago #176

Mamdani is right. Rabbis can pound sand dave99 3 hrs ago #177

i am with Mamdani. He's been an effective and good mayor so far. c-rational 2 hrs ago #178