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6. Dems look crazy?

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I was sobered to see some of the details of the revised DSA platform. [View all] LAS14 Yesterday OP

Just makes no sense and will convince many that the Dem party is not a left party but a communist one. efhmc Yesterday #1

Cite on closing prisons? WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #2

There is this point about mass incarceration Bluetus Yesterday #9

Right, I saw that part, which is a bare-ass minimum place to start. But didn't see anything about abolishing prisons. WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #11

The reason that you H2O Man Yesterday #15

If the "some people" happens to be, or become, the majority of voters RandomNumbers Yesterday #65

Darializa Avila Chevalier won the primary MichMan Yesterday #20

Deleted tweets are not a platform, though. The OP said it was the platform. WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #24

It was so sobering, the platform that the OP definitely read Prairie Gates Yesterday #36

Right, but suggests where her mindset is or was. And if "was" is apt, then RandomNumbers Yesterday #66

She has, so you don't need to worry about it. WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #72

Link? RandomNumbers Yesterday #74

She is the official Democratic nominee for that seat in the House. yardwork Yesterday #88

It was a safe Democratic seat all along MichMan Yesterday #90

Never underestimate the forces against us. yardwork Yesterday #93

Excellent points. RandomNumbers Yesterday #94

Exactly! yardwork Yesterday #95

Thanks for solving the mystery. nt LAS14 Yesterday #67

Here is a link to her platform as a now 32 year old candidate for congress Quiet Em Yesterday #69

Everyone who accepted Platner's apologies, MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #89

I wish I knew when she decided to delete the Twitter account. LAS14 20 hrs ago #111

It doesn't exist. Wiz Imp Yesterday #59

I was watching the statement scroll by on Smerconish, but can't... LAS14 Yesterday #64

Bend over to reach across the aisle orthoclad Yesterday #3

I think you are close to the point but missing it still bottomofthehill Yesterday #4

Dems look crazy? WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #6

*IF* someone believes the D platform says "abolish prisons" then HELL YES RandomNumbers Yesterday #48

Also, if that belief is out there and some D has it in their platform RandomNumbers Yesterday #50

This! FalloutShelter Yesterday #8

The "gifts" we keep handing the Republicans is NO PLAN Bluetus Yesterday #16

Gaslighting absurdity. The fictional polling data and the claims that Democrats have "no real platform" ignores reality. QueerDuck Yesterday #105

I think I was clear that I was talking about multiple generations Bluetus 21 hrs ago #107

The goalposts keep moving. QueerDuck 9 hrs ago #116

Several points Bluetus 6 hrs ago #119

Let's be honest here, okay? Democrats have not "sat back on 40-year-old laurels"... QueerDuck 6 hrs ago #122

OK, we can disagree about how much real fight there has been versus posturing Bluetus 5 hrs ago #124

The majority of that 1/3 H2O Man Yesterday #18

There was a great post on here a few years ago, orthoclad Yesterday #47

Do you have a link to that? Thanks n/t leftstreet Yesterday #5

I don't. I saw it scroll by on Smerconish. But others do. Also, see my OP edit. nt LAS14 Yesterday #68

You can find the platform here. There are 'sobering' items you did not mention. RandomNumbers Yesterday #71

Look, we can't be afraid of Republicans twisting our words. We KNOW that will happen. Bluetus Yesterday #7

thank you for posting this! mike_c Yesterday #14

Here are countries that are largely Democratic Socialist nations Bluetus Yesterday #19

if I'm not mistaken all those countries have a mix... mike_c Yesterday #53

Maybe candidates should say "regulated capitalism" then. RandomNumbers Yesterday #70

I'm good with that mike_c Yesterday #75

Or "Level Playing-field Capitalism" Bluetus Yesterday #79

That'll work. But I think RandomNumbers Yesterday #82

Personally I would not use the word "regulated." It is inherently negative. Bluetus Yesterday #86

Senator Warren said/says exactly that. mjvpi Yesterday #101

You write of "the Democrats" and "the DSA" as if they are two entirely separate wnylib Yesterday #21

That is all valid, IMHO Bluetus Yesterday #27

FDR would have approved of freely crossing borders wnylib Yesterday #97

You make some good points. However, in a negotiation Bluetus 21 hrs ago #108

Right? If you ask for exactly what you want Bettie 8 hrs ago #117

And when you don't ask for anything at all? Bluetus 6 hrs ago #121

DSA is not a party. yardwork Yesterday #28

They sure aren't playing nice for being different wings of the same party MichMan Yesterday #55

Wow...that is literally NOTHING like Bettie Yesterday #25

To be fair to the OP Bluetus Yesterday #29

Members of DSA are welcome to create any list of goals they wish. yardwork Yesterday #30

And we should have goals that are not currently attainable Bettie Yesterday #40

I agree. yardwork Yesterday #42

Republicans can twist anything Bettie Yesterday #32

+10000 Bluetus Yesterday #35

Many would disagree with you. Igel Yesterday #44

This message was self-deleted by its author MichMan Yesterday #54

The Democratic Socialist Party isn't the Democratic Party. patphil Yesterday #10

DSA is not a political party. WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #12

That is true, but I bet if a survey asked voters to pick which statement they agree with more, RandomNumbers Yesterday #62

. WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #76

I don't remember "defund the police" being in the official platform either RandomNumbers Yesterday #78

"Defund the police means defund the police" -- as one put it, had supporters in Congress. betsuni Yesterday #99

And don't forget DSA's position on "Open Borders" ... QueerDuck Yesterday #102

Law and order, border -- going to be a serious problem. betsuni Yesterday #104

I don't worry about Republican attack ads AZProgressive 21 hrs ago #110

"Regulated international commerce" is not what "Open Borders" means. QueerDuck 10 hrs ago #112

For context and so people can have actual information to form opinions... Nanjeanne Yesterday #13

DSA is not affiliated with the Democratic Party. yardwork Yesterday #17

Weren't they included in the Democratic primary? MichMan Yesterday #23

DSA is not a party. yardwork Yesterday #26

I will be voting for every Democrat Bluetus Yesterday #31

Candidates need to present what will win their election, that is (hopefully) RandomNumbers Yesterday #58

Not just holding the gavel. yardwork Yesterday #80

Thank you, 100% correct. RandomNumbers Yesterday #83

Needs to be repeated, and false claims Dems in minority could stop Republicans if they wanted to pushed back on. betsuni Yesterday #96

Completely agree. The "purity test" platforms ignore the reality of competitive districts. QueerDuck Yesterday #22

Please tell me what district does NOT want Bluetus Yesterday #33

I hope you will consider running for office. yardwork Yesterday #34

I have a strong belief that people my age should not be deciding the future Bluetus Yesterday #38

this septuagenarian agrees! mike_c Yesterday #57

We have a corporate/advertising-dominated culture Bluetus Yesterday #77

Those mainstream goals aren't what makes the platform fringe. QueerDuck Yesterday #45

Where does it say "close all prisons" and "nationalize all industries"? Bluetus Yesterday #84

Please don't gaslight me. It says it right in the official, published DSA Platform. QueerDuck Yesterday #92

I take your point. So, we don't have to accept everything the DSA people wrote. Bluetus 21 hrs ago #106

I completely agree with you on the principle: the profit motive has absolutely no place in prisons or healthcare. QueerDuck 10 hrs ago #115

My argument is that we would get those majorities if Bluetus 6 hrs ago #118

The issue is not a lack of campaign courage; it is the gap between campaign goals and structural reality. QueerDuck 6 hrs ago #120

There is EVERYTHING vague about those things Bluetus 5 hrs ago #123

Trump's already there, govt owned corps adam_vermont Yesterday #37

If you were sobered, may I suggest you drink more. mr715 Yesterday #39

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This is simply a social democratic platform. Link here David__77 Yesterday #41

Fear Cirsium Yesterday #43

I'd be willing to bet The Madcap Yesterday #46

If "changing ownership of large corporations to public ownership" is scarry to non-progressives I in2herbs Yesterday #49

Bye orangecrush Yesterday #51

Here, from their website, is the list of things they call "What We Fight For": Wiz Imp Yesterday #52

This was on their website as well MichMan Yesterday #56

Yep. That is correct, IMO mike_c Yesterday #63

So, they are anti Democratic Party then. RandomNumbers Yesterday #73

I completely disagree that they are anti-Democratic Party mike_c Yesterday #85

Yes, they are. Agree with ranked choice or other. betsuni Yesterday #103

Not at all. Should have never been allowed in the first place. Blue Full Moon Yesterday #60

Trump.has been negotiating deals with corporations Klarkashton Yesterday #61

I personally more interested in fighting the Republican Party and it's harmful affects walkingman Yesterday #81

This! Vote for the Democrat in November! yardwork Yesterday #87

It pisses me off that people think one person can change EVERYTHING without having help. dave99 Yesterday #91

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Look at the platform of the Democrats 50 years ago - resembles the DSA platform OutNow Yesterday #98

It's fascinating to read all the past D platforms Nanjeanne Yesterday #100

Like I said in another thread AZProgressive 21 hrs ago #109